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#121 User is online   smerriman 

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Posted 2024-March-02, 21:05

Perhaps you hesitated too long, and Ben was trying to choose between logical alternatives..
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Posted 2024-March-02, 21:13

View Postsmerriman, on 2024-March-02, 21:05, said:

Perhaps you hesitated too long, and Ben was trying to choose between logical alternatives..


Best explanation ever :)
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Posted 2024-March-04, 03:10

I have made a video of Ben & Friends 02/03. The video has been improved! The MP-scores are now shown in the play view, instead of showing the score sheet after each board and also the current scores are shown. I plan a third improvements, to show the bidding bid by bid and also show the explanations of alerted bids. It will be implemented in the next version. I missed to record the result list for this video. Link: https://youtu.be/YCGSCvfzs6I
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Posted 2024-March-04, 16:27

A video of Ben & Friends 03/03 https://youtu.be/O8Q5up_Lt0w
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Posted 2024-March-07, 18:18

A new video Ben and Friends from 05/03, with an improved function; the bidding is now shown bid by bid and the alert information shown. https://youtu.be/W1DsxjGAGD8
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Posted 2024-March-12, 02:35

I can't think of much to say about this hand other than 'rofl'.



I guess it's more common to play xx as showing a bust, but that wouldn't make the leap to 6♥ more understandable.. or the 2♣ opener in the first place..
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Posted 2024-March-12, 12:01

View Postsmerriman, on 2024-March-12, 02:35, said:

I guess it's more common to play xx as showing a bust, but that wouldn't make the leap to 6♥ more understandable.. or the 2♣ opener in the first place..

At least the robot wasn't peeking (6♠ looks a decent gamble).
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Posted 2024-March-28, 23:43


Probably shouldn't complain, but (at trick 6), what happened to 'cover an honour with an honour'?

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Posted 2024-April-11, 07:46

https://tinyurl.com/2973r5lx

I make a Michaels Cue, and partner has 3-card support but denies even doubleton support.
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Posted 2024-April-12, 00:48

View Posthelene_t, on 2024-April-11, 07:46, said:

https://tinyurl.com/2973r5lx

I make a Michaels Cue, and partner has 3-card support but denies even doubleton support.

I had something similar the other day with Michaels, but can't find the hand.

Not as bad as today though, where I made a Soloway jump shift, and Ben promptly passed, for a partscore making 7. I guess that's what you get when you train it on humans..
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Posted 2024-April-21, 16:25

This post https://www.bridgeba...trange-defense/ should have been added here
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Posted 2024-April-21, 16:34

From "BEN & Friends" 2024-04-20

https://webutil.brid...273591-R1-B6-I1

Interesting that 26 times North opened a 4th hand 2♦, and one time the Robot in West did not balance with 3♥

Perhaps the missing overcall was the reason for playing a ♥ at trick 7.


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Posted 2024-May-07, 06:44

Congrats Lorand,
Nice job!
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Posted 2024-May-10, 04:48



Training BEN to bid like GIB is not always the best.
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Posted 2024-May-12, 09:53



Pass to a cuebid is never good. And yes it was wrong to Cuebid.
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Posted 2024-May-15, 02:36

Ben makes a 2♣ Capp bid, which gets doubled. With 7 hearts and a stiff club it seems prudent to run, unless partner's pass shows clubs which doesn't seem to be the case.

https://tinyurl.com/28h7z6hf
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Posted 2024-May-16, 05:57

View Posthelene_t, on 2024-May-15, 02:36, said:

Ben makes a 2♣ Capp bid, which gets doubled. With 7 hearts and a stiff club it seems prudent to run, unless partner's pass shows clubs which doesn't seem to be the case.

https://tinyurl.com/28h7z6hf


Also note that Norths double is Stayman according to the GIB definition.

The Pass is just no suitable call, and again according to GIB, the right bid is 2H.

So this is just missing training for BEN
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Posted 2024-May-16, 06:01



Go to trick 4 and note the play from dummy
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Posted 2024-May-16, 07:31

More funny than buggy, but a silly stripe tail ape double
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Posted 2024-May-16, 12:46

View Posthelene_t, on 2024-May-16, 07:31, said:

More funny than buggy, but a silly stripe tail ape double


I imagine it's more the fault of BBO than Ben, but the explanation of 2NT as 15+HCP is not even funny.
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