Whats the funniest system you have played?
#61
Posted 2012-July-06, 02:33
George Carlin
#62
Posted 2012-July-06, 02:48
gwnn, on 2012-July-06, 02:33, said:
Even more than the 4♠/5♣ Baby Gerber openings?!
#63
Posted 2012-July-06, 08:54
mr1303, on 2011-August-06, 13:59, said:
I played something along these lines with an Aussie expert for a while, we didn't do too badly, but the partnership didn't last. I'm a bit hazy on the details, but I know that a simple bid of the next (i.e. opener's real) suit was forcing, while a jump raise of openers real suit was pre-emptive.
My own favourite is TRS, which I played briefly with another partner from Down Under
Pass = any 11-15 HCP not fitting the other openers
1C = 16+ unbalanced,, 17+ balanced
1D = any 0-10 HCP not fitting the other openers
1H or 1S = 7-10 HCP, either 0-2 or 5+ cards in the suit
1NT = 14-16 balanced
2C = 7-10 HCP, 2 suited, not clubs
2D = 11-15 HCP, 3 suited short hearts OR 3-7 HCP, 5+ hearts
2H = 11-15 HCP, 4-4-4-1 with 4 hearts
2S = 7-10 HCP, 2 suited with clubs OR 3-7 HCP, 5+ spades
2NT = 20-21 balanced
3 of a suit = natural, preemptive
3NT = (lst & 2nd) 4 level preempt in a minor (3rd & 4th) to play
4C and 4D = (lst & 2nd) Texas for hearts/spades (3rd & 4th) natural
#64
Posted 2012-July-06, 16:56
Shortly thereafter playing in some unimportant event, I glanced at the opponents' convention card. Their 1♣ opening was 17+, and their 2♣ opening was 19+. I was amazed.
#65
Posted 2012-July-06, 22:24
#66
Posted 2012-July-07, 00:40
http://www.dur.ac.uk...dge.club/BACON/
Guaranteed to get a reaction from almost any opponent when meeting it for the first time. Generally one of sheer disbelief.
#67
Posted 2012-July-07, 06:32
AGAINST is tempo-adjusted StAm. eg.
(hesitate) 1C p 1H p, 1NT:10-12
(in tempo) 1C p 1H p, 1NT:13-14
(hesitate) 1C p 1H (hesitate) p, 1NT:15-17
Three ways to show bal opener,
all seeming the same auction.
And responder knows what to continue on: 13? 11? 8?
#68
Posted 2012-July-07, 08:12
bluecalm, on 2011-June-21, 16:31, said:
-No bid is forcing unless it's jump in new suit then it's game forcing and showing 5+ (this means that 1/1 and 2/1 are not forcing)
-every bid expect 1NT-...-2NT openers is natural; 1/1 shows 5+cards, 2/1 same;
-openings: all 1level openers shows 5+suit and are 12+hcp
-1NT/2C/2D/2H/2S/2NT are all balanced hands with 12-14, 15-17-, 18-19, 20-21, 22-23 and 24+ respectively.
-3/4 level openers = preempts
I think it's "reasonable" by that I mean it's possible to achieve good score on most deals using it and it can have some benefits as auctions like 1S - 3NT or 1D - 2H - 4H - 6H are standard and you often play "fast 3NT" having some 5-3 or 4-4 fit which makes for big variance and some fun.
I haven't tried any artificial system yet, but I would like to try the following natural system, apart from my currently used one, in MP events:
- No forcing opening.
- 1-level opening shows 12+, 3+m / 5+M and is non-forcing
- all 2-level or above suit openings are preempts, with our usual strict agreements on the quality
- 1NT = 15-17
- 2NT = 22-24
- 3NT = 25-27
- 1/1 and 2/1 are non-forcing and shows 5 of the suit, but a jump shows a game-forcing hand and at least 5 of the suit.
#69
Posted 2012-July-08, 08:10
The other most funny thing is the weak 2NT opening (13 - 14 NT) 1st 2nd seat favourable.
Anyway, in the pre-2008 rules in Germany, playing 2♣ as ♣ or reds was allowed if you always follow rule-of-18. And we played this system in a tournament led by one of Germany's top TD's. When the auction then went 2♦ Double all pass, overtrick, the TD was called on our system and the TD banned it, only to come back to apologize during the next tournament...
#70
Posted 2012-July-08, 12:28
dake50, on 2012-July-07, 06:32, said:
AGAINST is tempo-adjusted StAm. eg.
(hesitate) 1C p 1H p, 1NT:10-12
(in tempo) 1C p 1H p, 1NT:13-14
(hesitate) 1C p 1H (hesitate) p, 1NT:15-17
Three ways to show bal opener,
all seeming the same auction.
And responder knows what to continue on: 13? 11? 8?
I'd love to play against that system... with screens.
South: (fast) 1♣
Me: (10 seconds) pass
North: 1♥
East: pass
South: (fast) 1NT
Me: (10 seconds) pass
North: 6NT!
East: pass
South: pass
Me: (10 seconds): Double!
(all pass)
(10 seconds) ♦A
(10 more seconds) ♠A
(another 10 seconds) ♦K
South: Director! He gave my partner unauthorized misinformation!
43 44 43 24
#71
Posted 2012-August-21, 23:06
Chris2794, on 2011-June-21, 15:59, said:
I have played two non serious systems on a club night that I enjoyed:
- Play the opponents system but you are not allowed to refer to their system card or ask and you are not allowed to make it easy for partner by making a non systemic bid to help him/her. Eg if you think they are playing 2C Multi (just like a 2D multi) and you open 2C with a weak 2 Major. Partner bids 2D (which if he thinks you have opened a multi asks for your suit but is a negative if he thinks you have opened a strong 2C) you can't bid 2S with the Multi version and 3S with the GF version to help him. It is unfortunate that the pre-alerting regulations have destroyed this system.
- Symmetric Anticipation where you assume partner has 1/3 of the remaining values and shape and bid what you think you can make. Partner makes a similar assumption from his side. You don't play many 4-4 fits and you open 2NT a lot!
I have also seen approaches where (1) you are allowed to make no more than two bids (incl double) by each player in your partnership and (2) where your side is not allowed to start bidding until you are in the pass out seat.
Cheers, Stephen
#72
Posted 2012-August-23, 07:41
1. If you have <13 HCP, you cannot open.
2. If you have ≥13 HCP, you must open.
3. Once the bidding has been opened, the next bid by any player must be at least game.
4. Psychs are encouraged. This includes opening on <13 or passing with ≥13.
5. After a game bid, bidding proceeds according to normal rules.
6. There are no "partnerships" as such - see #8 below - and bidding is not "an exchange between partners".
7. All four players use the same bidding system (this being the mid-60s to early 70s, we used Standard Goren).
8. When the bidding is opened, after three passes the last player to bid becomes declarer. He chooses which player shall be his dummy. That player exchanges seats, if necessary, with the player sitting opposite declarer.
9. The newly chosen dummy gets to choose whether he will "accept" or "reject" the choice. If he accepts, he gets declarer's score on the hand. If he rejects, he gets the defenders' score. See item #4 above. :-)
10. Scoring is similar to an individual in that the scorer keeps a running tally for each player. IIRC, we dropped the trailing zero in scoring (so -50 would be scored as -5).
11. If a hand is passed out, the deck is not shuffled; the next hand is dealt as a goulash, 5-5-3 (any order) the first time 7-6 or 6-7 the second (if the first goulie is passed out). After that, go back to shuffling.
You could probably run an individual tournament this way, say at a club, but I'd bet an awful lot of today's players would object so strongly on hearing the idea that club management would not even try it.
As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
#73
Posted 2012-August-23, 11:52
helene_t, on 2011-June-21, 16:45, said:
1♦=14-16 bal or natural 9+
1M=9-16, 5+ in suit
1NT=17-19
2♣=various strong hands
2♦= roman
2M= strong , NF
I would recommend putting your 9-card minors elsewhere.
- hrothgar
#74
Posted 2012-August-24, 21:21