eschewing the fit
#1
Posted 2014-June-26, 12:58
IMP, best hand South, Pro GIB 30
This hand is to revisit a complaint that I made too many months ago to find it now, although I am sure I have made it several times.
The basic principle of my complaint is that having completed its hand description and hearing a non-forcing bid from partner, by default it should then pass.
What it seems to be doing here, and I have to say it does it every time, is that having determined that there is an 8 card major suit fit it WILL NOT accept 3NT as a possible contract.
What it appears to disregard, but should not, is the fact that it has already announced an 8+ card major suit fit, and South, in full knowledge of that fit, and known to both parties to the partnership to be in possession of that knowledge, has chosen 3N as likely the best spot.
Has North a hand that suggests overriding South's suggestion? In context, he could hardly be more suitable for concurring with South's preference for 3N.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
#2
Posted 2014-June-26, 13:01
To BBradley62, the above attempt is the reason why I tend to paste the hand into notepad for editing before recopying and pasting into the post, rather than pasting directly into the post and editing it there.
IMP, best hand South, Pro GIB 30
This hand is to revisit a complaint that I made too many months ago to find it now, although I am sure I have made it several times.
The basic principle of my complaint is that having completed its hand description and hearing a non-forcing bid from partner, by default it should then pass.
What it seems to be doing here, and I have to say it does it every time, is that having determined that there is an 8 card major suit fit it WILL NOT accept 3NT as a possible contract.
What it appears to disregard, but should not, is the fact that it has already announced an 8+ card major suit fit, and South, in full knowledge of that fit, and known to both parties to the partnership to be in possession of that knowledge, has chosen 3N as likely the best spot.
Has North a hand that suggests overriding South's suggestion? In context, he could hardly be more suitable for concurring with South's preference for 3N.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
#3
Posted 2014-June-26, 15:07
1eyedjack, on 2014-June-26, 12:58, said:
IMP, best hand South, Pro GIB 30
This hand is to revisit a complaint that I made too many months ago to find it now, although I am sure I have made it several times.
The basic principle of my complaint is that having completed its hand description and hearing a non-forcing bid from partner, by default it should then pass.
What it seems to be doing here, and I have to say it does it every time, is that having determined that there is an 8 card major suit fit it WILL NOT accept 3NT as a possible contract.
What it appears to disregard, but should not, is the fact that it has already announced an 8+ card major suit fit, and South, in full knowledge of that fit, and known to both parties to the partnership to be in possession of that knowledge, has chosen 3N as likely the best spot.
Has North a hand that suggests overriding South's suggestion? In context, he could hardly be more suitable for concurring with South's preference for 3N.
#4
Posted 2014-June-26, 15:14
#5
Posted 2014-June-26, 16:11
Bbradley62, on 2014-June-26, 15:14, said:
2♥ description ok, Gib need a max and 4♥ to super-accept, whether that's a god policy is another question.
its the description of 3N that's wrong 2-5♥ obviously unlikely south has 4-5♥ even 3♥ would require a special hand to give up on known 9-card fit.
But this just illustrated Gib doesn't use the concept of Captaincy. Clearly south is in charge as north has limited it\s hand so should respect south's decision.
got it the other was round south is limited, north the captain
#6
Posted 2014-June-26, 17:31
Bbradley62, on 2014-June-26, 15:07, said:
It may be an Internet Explorer thing
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
#7
Posted 2014-June-26, 20:50
steve2005, on 2014-June-26, 16:11, said:
Bbradley62, on 2014-June-26, 15:14, said:
2♥ description ok, Gib need a max and 4♥ to super-accept, whether that's a god policy is another question.its the description of 3N that's wrong 2-5♥ obviously unlikely south has 4-5♥ even 3♥ would require a special hand to give up on known 9-card fit...
#8
Posted 2014-June-27, 05:12
ahydra
#10
Posted 2014-July-04, 06:36
Btw, GIB requirements for high transfers are:
11+TP with 6+M
or
9-10TP with 7+M
GIB mild slam ( 1N - 2♦/2♥ - 2♥/♠ - 4♥/♠ uncontested) is 14-15TP 6M(322)/7222