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Partscore Planning How would you bid this?

Poll: Your plan after 1D-1H? (30 member(s) have cast votes)

Your plan after 1D-1H?

  1. 2H (2 votes [6.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.67%

  2. 1NT; expect partner to bid 2H with five hearts and 6-9 (3 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  3. 1NT; expect partner to pass with five hearts and 6-9 (6 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  4. 1S; plan to pass if partner rebids 1NT (16 votes [53.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 53.33%

  5. 1S; plan to bid 2H if partner rebids 1NT (3 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

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Posted 2005-September-21, 12:02

You hold the following hand at matchpoints:

Scoring: MP


You open 1 and partner bids 1. What is your plan?

Feel free to assume whatever methods you usually play, provided that 1 is a reasonable opening on this hand and 1 response would be natural and forcing.

With regard to what partner's expected to do if/when you rebid 1NT, I'm sure most of us would correct to 2 with KJT97 of hearts and few other cards, and that almost no one would correct with 76543 of hearts and outside values. The question is what you expect from partner on a "typical" minimum response holding exactly five hearts.
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Posted 2005-September-21, 12:13

Easy raise to 2H

Clarifies range...
clarifies a trump fit...

No compelling reason to introduce spades with a balanced minimum
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Posted 2005-September-21, 12:18

I always bypass the 4 card S suit to start the CBS sequence. Our agreement is when he bids 2H it is always to play (He could have shown me a 7-9 hcp 5-4 major holding with a j/s.)
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Posted 2005-September-21, 12:40

Support with support. I follow Richard's lead and raise to 2 without a care in the world, other than the nagging feeling something must be wrong if I am agreeing with Richard. :D

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The question is what you expect from partner on a "typical" minimum response holding exactly five hearts.


I expect him to pass 2 any minimum hand with (four or) five hearts.
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Posted 2005-September-21, 12:41

1S then pass 1N. I have not bought into raising hearts with 3 on NT oriented hands, especially those that contain 4 spades. I like to raise on 3, but not as much as Adam. This hand could play better than hearts in both spades and NT. Obviously I have to pass a 1N bid by pard as 2H would show extras now.
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Posted 2005-September-21, 12:46

1S then pass 1NT.

I don't raise 2H with a balance hand. With 3-card support, I consider raise only when I have a stiff.

I don't have problem with 1NT with this hand. I'd rather clarify my support card number and make further bidding an easy move.
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Posted 2005-September-21, 12:52

1 planning to pass 1NT, bypassing 1NT at MPs is a crime.
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Posted 2005-September-21, 12:54

For me this obviously depends on my partner and our agreements. If I ever get to play with a partner who doesn't have a strong opinion on this subject I will suggest to bid 1S with this and pass the 1NT response. I would like to raise with 3-card support only when I have a singleton or a weak doubleton.
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Posted 2005-September-21, 13:02

1. Its a style thing, but I usually deny 4 if I only have 3's.

I need more shape - like a 4=3=5=1 to pull 1N to 2. So I will pass 1N. Pulling to 2 doesn't show extras - although I think at one time it did.
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Posted 2005-September-21, 13:03

pclayton, on Sep 21 2005, 02:02 PM, said:

Pulling to 2 doesn't show extras - although I think at one time it did.

:D Guess I'm oldschool lol.
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Posted 2005-September-21, 13:18

1s and passing p rebid of 1nt.
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Posted 2005-September-21, 13:33

Jlall, on Sep 21 2005, 02:03 PM, said:

pclayton, on Sep 21 2005, 02:02 PM, said:

Pulling to 2 doesn't show extras - although I think at one time it did.

:D Guess I'm oldschool lol.

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Posted 2005-September-21, 13:34

Al_U_Card, on Sep 21 2005, 02:33 PM, said:

Jlall, on Sep 21 2005, 02:03 PM, said:

pclayton, on Sep 21 2005, 02:02 PM, said:

Pulling to 2 doesn't show extras - although I think at one time it did.

:D Guess I'm oldschool lol.

Thot you were Highschool... :D

not for 2 years (thank goodness).
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Posted 2005-September-21, 13:35

Jlall, on Sep 21 2005, 02:34 PM, said:

Al_U_Card, on Sep 21 2005, 02:33 PM, said:

Jlall, on Sep 21 2005, 02:03 PM, said:

pclayton, on Sep 21 2005, 02:02 PM, said:

Pulling to 2 doesn't show extras - although I think at one time it did.

:D Guess I'm oldschool lol.

Thot you were Highschool... :D

not for 2 years (thank goodness).

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Posted 2005-September-21, 13:36

good, I guess I have some good upcoming years :)
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Posted 2005-September-21, 13:40

Yup, remember downhill is only good for skiing :)
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Posted 2005-September-21, 15:23

One of the reasons that I prefer a weak 1N opener is that I dearly want to rebid 1NT on this shape, but for some reason I feel that this is less sensible if the 1N rebid is 12-14 than if it is 15-17.
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Posted 2005-September-21, 15:28

1NT, a matter of agreement. Don't need to support with a 3 card in this case imo, you want to rightside NT contracts.
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Posted 2005-September-21, 16:13

Jlall, on Sep 21 2005, 06:41 PM, said:

1S then pass 1N. I have not bought into raising hearts with 3 on NT oriented hands, especially those that contain 4 spades. I like to raise on 3, but not as much as Adam. This hand could play better than hearts in both spades and NT. Obviously I have to pass a 1N bid by pard as 2H would show extras now.

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Posted 2005-September-21, 16:15

Fluffy, on Sep 21 2005, 05:13 PM, said:

Oh you aren't fully on the dark side of the force, we might still save you :D

ROFL. The dark side might consider your side the dark side (ok that was confusing).
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