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#1 User is offline   karlson 

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Posted 2008-July-01, 17:31

Scoring: IMP

3 - p - p - 3
p - ?

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Posted 2008-July-01, 18:00

3N. Tough problem but I think 3 aims for a narrow target when 4 is better than 3N on a 5-3. Plus I have to do somethin with dem diamonds in spades.

In 3N we might have the choice of going after hearts or spades. Pard isn't barred over 3N either.
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Posted 2008-July-01, 18:02

3NT, but I don't feel strongly about this.

If we have a spade fit, 3NT may still be OK (unless they run the clubs.)
3 is a very reasonable alternative.

Either bid seems to me better than passing.
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Posted 2008-July-01, 18:03

Good title.

I think this is a tough problem and that any of pass, 3, and 3NT could work out well. Let me talk aloud through them.

Pass - Partner is only balancing and this may be our only chance for a plus score. We do have two aces that will help partner out.

3 - Great if we catch three spades from partner. I think however, that partner may double with some 3=5=1=4 hands (I know I would). He may be 3=6=x=y though and 4 is the superior contract. I just think the odds are against 3 working out as it pretty much rules out getting to 3NT if that's the right spot.

3NT - Well, we have good stoppers in diamonds and may avoid something like diamonds being 7=4=0=2 around the table and getting an opening lead ruffing finesse. Certainly has a lot of upside for the vulnerable game.

All in all, I'm going to go with 3NT, but certainly not with any great conviction.
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Posted 2008-July-01, 19:25

Even pass could work out well. At Imps I think 3NT is better than 3S. At MPs ?? the same I guess, but would not crime a pass.
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Posted 2008-July-01, 20:23

Another vote for 3N as we aren't terribly likely to catch pard with 3 support and I really don't think it good odds to pass 3
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Posted 2008-July-01, 20:24

3N seems so obvious I am surprised people think it is a tough problem.
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Posted 2008-July-01, 21:15

Jlall, on Jul 1 2008, 09:24 PM, said:

3N seems so obvious I am surprised people think it is a tough problem.

But, you have five spades. :)
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Posted 2008-July-01, 21:15

Double for take-out.
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Posted 2008-July-01, 21:19

Since I can't hear anyone laughing, I take it back. 3N.
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