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#1 User is offline   hrothgar 

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Posted 2008-July-05, 16:19

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White v White

You hold

♠ 4
♥ JT6542
♦ KJT843
♣ VOID

The auction starts

(1♠) - 2♣ - (P) - ???

Do you make a bid?

If you decide to pass (I did), the auction continues

(2♠) - P - (P) - ???
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Posted 2008-July-05, 16:25

I'd bid 2♥ on the first round, whether it's forcing or not.

Having passed 2♣, I'd bid 2NT, then 3♦ over 2♣.
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Posted 2008-July-05, 16:30

I passed with 6-6?

I would have bid 2H over 2C for sure, it can go 2C all pass when we are cold for a game.
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Posted 2008-July-05, 16:49

2♥ directly on 2♣♣. Not close for me.
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Posted 2008-July-05, 16:55

Partner is favourite to hold 10 black cards, selling out at 2 spades could be the winner. Anyway I'd reopen with 3 diamonds.
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Posted 2008-July-05, 17:46

I don't mind the first pass, now 2NT pulling to 3♦.
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Posted 2008-July-05, 17:50

2♥ on the previous round.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-July-05, 18:27

I wouldn't have passed the first round. Partner is relatively unlikely to be very long in the opps suit (partner did overcall) - so there are reasonable chances that s/he has support for one of ours.

And, on the 2nd round - well - I'm uncomfortable not having expressed this hand before - but partner let 2♠ go - so I don't think it likely that s/he has 7 clubs or something either. To my mind that makes it a virtual certainty that we have a fit. So I try 2N and pull to 3♦ if necessary.

It is, I suppose, possible that partner has something in the order of a 5-1-1-6 shape with 5 probably smallish spades and we should leave the contract where it is - but this is being way too pessimistic for my taste.
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Posted 2008-July-05, 18:36

I don't understand those that pass the 1st round and compete with 3♥ later. I would bid 2♥ initially and compete to 3♦ later. I am 6-6 and its very likely we have a nine card fit somewhere.
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Posted 2008-July-05, 19:03

Where the hell are all the spades? I think opener is pulling out leg, trying to get doubled on some 74 or 83 pattern - or RHO has 3+ spades and weakness.

Either way, I see no benefit NV in trying to outcompete them. Pass and pass some more.
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Posted 2008-July-05, 20:32

hrothgar, on Jul 5 2008, 05:19 PM, said:

IMPS White v White You hold ♠ 4 ♥ JT6542 ♦ KJT843 ♣ VOID

The auction starts
(1♠) - 2♣ - (P) - ???
Do you make a bid?

If you decide to pass (I did), the auction continues
(2♠) - P - (P) - ???

IMO
  • Before, Over (2♣), 2♥ = 10. _P = 8, _X = 4
  • Now, over 2♠, _P = 10, 3♥ = 8. Unless 2N would show this hand (but it seems natural to me)
LHO didn't raise ♣. Nor did RHO rebid them. I have a void. Partner rebid 2♠ rather than make a take-out double. IMO partner's hand is as black as our red suit prospects :)
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Posted 2008-July-06, 04:24

nige1, on Jul 6 2008, 04:32 AM, said:

hrothgar, on Jul 5 2008, 05:19 PM, said:

IMPS White v White You hold ♠ 4 ♥ JT6542 ♦ KJT843 ♣ VOID

The auction starts
(1♠) - 2♣ - (P) - ???
Do you make a bid?

If you decide to pass (I did), the auction continues
(2♠) - P - (P) - ???

IMO
  • Before, Over (2♣), 2♥ = 10. _P = 8, _X = 4
  • Now, over 2♠, _P = 10, 3♥ = 8. Unless 2N would show this hand (but it seems natural to me)
LHO didn't raise ♣. Nor did RHO rebid them. I have a void. Partner rebid 2♠ rather than make a take-out double. IMO partner's hand is as black as our red suit prospects :(

You got this one on upside down, Nigel. Partner bid clubs and opps spades.

I'd have bid 2♥ over 2♣, planning to rebid 3♦.

Now it isn't as clear, but I can't see me passing again with 12 red cards. 2NT it is, planning to rebid 3♦ over 3♣.
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Posted 2008-July-06, 08:22

skaeran, on Jul 6 2008, 05:24 AM, said:

You got this one on upside down, Nigel. Partner bid clubs and opps spades.
I'd have bid 2♥ over 2♣, planning to rebid 3♦.
Now it isn't as clear, but I can't see me passing again with 12 red cards. 2NT it is, planning to rebid 3♦ over 3♣.
Thank you, Skaeran :( My revised opinion is similar to your's :)
  • Before, Over 2♣, 2♥ = 10. _P = 8.
  • Now, over (2♠), 2N = 10, 3♥ = 8, _P = 6.
Mildly concerned that partner failed to double 2♠ so he may hold ♠
(typo corrected in the light of TimG's reply below)
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Posted 2008-July-06, 09:14

nige1, on Jul 6 2008, 09:22 AM, said:

Mildly concerned that partner failed to double 2♠ so he may hold ♣

He did bid clubs, after all.
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Posted 2008-July-06, 09:39

TimG, on Jul 6 2008, 10:14 AM, said:

nige1, on Jul 6 2008, 09:22 AM, said:

Mildly concerned that partner failed to double 2♠ so he may hold ♣

He did bid clubs, after all.

Thanks, Tim I've corrected that typo in my post above.
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Posted 2008-July-07, 09:51

hrothgar, on Jul 5 2008, 11:19 PM, said:

(1♠) - 2♣ - (P) - ???

Do you make a bid?

If you decide to pass (I did), the auction continues

(2♠) - P - (P) - ???

You bid game with every hand that has 11+ cards in 2 suits, and now you pass with 6-6? B)

2♥ on the previous round.
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