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#1 User is offline   manudude03 

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Posted 2009-March-06, 23:53

Scoring: XIMP


You partner a BBO pickup vs 2 other juniors after your regular needs to go afk for 10 mins and you pick up this as East.

1D on your right alerted as 0-7 any. Unfortunately the opps aren't nice enough to provide a recommended defence. What's the plan?



If you double, the auction goes:

(1D*)-X-(1H)-X
(P)-??
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Posted 2009-March-07, 01:23

Double.
When partner starts bidding hearts 3NT we will probably end in 3NT.
When the opps both bid hearts we find a fit and try for slam.
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Posted 2009-March-07, 03:36

yes, without special agreement this must show something like a weak NT / t/o on ♦, or any strong hand.
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Posted 2009-March-07, 05:45

ok, bidding continues

(1D)-X-(1H)-X
(P)
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Posted 2009-March-07, 11:59

2♥, intending to bid diamonds next.
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Posted 2009-March-07, 13:04

ArtK78, on Mar 7 2009, 05:59 PM, said:

2♥, intending to bid diamonds next.

if you go with that plan, you get:

(1D)-X-(1H)-X
(P)-2H-(P)-2S
(P)-3D-(P)-3H
(P)
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Posted 2009-March-07, 13:23

I would expect that partner holds 5♠'s and a strong hand, probably with a wasted ♥ control.
Given that we have so little agreements I would bid 6♠ now, and I would expect that partner recognizes that if he holds the ♣A he should bid 7♠.
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Posted 2009-March-07, 22:49

hotShot, on Mar 7 2009, 12:23 PM, said:

I would expect that partner holds 5♠'s and a strong hand, probably with a wasted ♥ control.
Given that we have so little agreements I would bid 6♠ now, and I would expect that partner recognizes that if he holds the ♣A he should bid 7♠.

If partner had 5 spades, why wouldn't he bid spades instead of doubling hearts? I assume that X of hearts should be takeout in this auction, as it is most analogous to a 1♣-(1♥)-X auction as anything.

Anyway, I also assume that X would either be a weak NT hand, or a hand that is too strong to start with a natural call. When you double, cue-bid, then bid 3 diamonds, you've set up the latter hand. I would bid 3 ♠ now, forcing, showing 3 of them. Partner should be able to make another call (if 3N, I'm bidding 4 clubs), and we'll get to the right spot if we both remember our fundamental principles.
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  Posted 2009-March-08, 02:43

DBL.
Giving chance to partner for penaity hearts contract. :)
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Posted 2009-March-08, 02:44

Hmm. You don't play Precision style after the fert? (1D) x = any 16+ with herbert negs,
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Posted 2009-March-08, 02:58

Pls elaborate. I don't know anyone by the name of Herbert :)
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Posted 2009-March-08, 04:23

You don't get around enough Nuno. Ever heard of Herbert Marcuse?
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2009-March-08, 09:03

#1 double is certainly the sensible thing to do
#2 4D.
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#3 if I had bid 2H, than I have to bid 4D over 3H
As it is: you play with a stranged, avoid making cues,
unless, you really know, what is going on.

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Posted 2009-March-08, 17:46

The_Hog, on Mar 8 2009, 10:23 AM, said:

You don't get around enough Nuno. Ever heard of Herbert Marcuse?

yeah, I guess I don't.. hehe. What is there about Herbert I can't google for? :)
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Posted 2009-March-09, 05:59

Maybe not an approved auction, I made sure to thank partner for not raising :)

Scoring: XIMP


1D-X-1H-X
P-6D-AP

Opps were keen to point out 1H goes for 1400 lol.
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Posted 2009-March-09, 06:02

Ridiculous that you didn't find out the ice-cold 7♣ contract :) :D :)
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Posted 2009-March-09, 08:20

whereagles, on Mar 9 2009, 07:02 AM, said:

Ridiculous that you didn't find out the ice-cold 7♣ contract :) :D :)

Indeed. The obvious auction should have been:

(1♦) - x - (1♥) - x
(P) - 7♣

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