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Missed vulnerable game Evaluation of single-suited hand

#1 User is offline   hammberry 

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Posted 2009-March-20, 07:57

Unfavorable vulnerability at IMPs

South dealt herself: KT4, AQT9852, 6, 96

What's the best start?

South actually opened 3H, hoping to describe her hand immediately and
stifle non-vulnerable competition.

North, holding: J963, J76, AQ8, T87 passed, and we missed a game.

At the other table, the bidding was 1H - 2H - 4H.
A teammate said "With 7 hearts and a singleton, it's obvious to bid a
vulnerable game."

What do you think?
I meant well...
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#2 User is offline   TylerE 

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Posted 2009-March-20, 08:29

You do realise that 4 is a fairly bad contract, right?
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  Posted 2009-March-20, 08:47

This is pure resulting. 3 is ideal for the hand and you're not raising to four with this assortment.

Ask your teammates what they do if the K of heart is guarded offside, with the AQ of spades sitting wrong, what they think about going two off.
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Posted 2009-March-20, 08:50

hammberry, on Mar 20 2009, 01:57 PM, said:

South dealt herself: KT4, AQT9852, 6, 96

What's the best start?

What's best I dunno, but you can try opening 4 :)
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Posted 2009-March-20, 09:00

keylime, on Mar 20 2009, 09:47 AM, said:

This is pure resulting. 3 is ideal for the hand and you're not raising to four with this assortment.

Ask your teammates what they do if the K of heart is guarded offside, with the AQ of spades sitting wrong, what they think about going two off.

I agree completely with you and Tyler. What are the odds of game making here?

3 and pass for me RvW.

At the other table it was quite optimistic to raise the 2 response to 4.

Seriously, if my teammates criticize the missed making game here, I tell them to do some math and figure out how often this poor game makes. If they cannot or won't do that, I may be looking for new teammates since I know that I and most likely PD don't want to be bothered by this sort of resulting.

Just my opinion.. neilkaz ..
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Posted 2009-March-20, 09:09

You missed a game that is about 20% to make.
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Posted 2009-March-20, 09:17

Yeah 4 is probably 25% maybe more? Not good at all.

I was gonna suggest opening 4 but being Vulnerable 3 is probably better.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


View Postrbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2009-March-20, 10:01

#1 Depends on agreement, but the hand looks ok for a red vs.
green preempt.
You have a fair chance to make 7 tricks, not sure, but the chance
is there.

#2 North has a hand, which will usually provide 2 tricks, i.e. 3H making,
hence he should pass.

#3 The 4H on the other table was ok, but agressive, unless they play
constructive raises.
I would not open 1H, but it is ok.

So all in all, your auction was fine, but that does not mean that you
have the right to get a good result.

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Posted 2009-March-20, 12:50

3H at these colors looks fine.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-March-20, 17:36

I also think 3 is fine, it's a normal maximum for the bid at this vul.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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