[mtvesuvius]

V vs NV at IMPs you hold:

♠AK8732
♥K2
♦AJ
♣KQ3

LHO opens 2♥ Weak, Partner passes and RHO bids 3NT... What's your plan?

[whereagles]

Dbl, to unmask RHOs psyche, and 4♠ later.

[bill1157]

pass and lead ♠A

Bill

[Phil]

bill1157, on Mar 25 2009, 08:36 PM, said:

pass and lead ♠A

Bill

You won't be on lead unless the opponents are nuts and sit this out.

Double and then spades.

[bill1157]

Phil, on Mar 25 2009, 08:57 PM, said:

bill1157, on Mar 25 2009, 08:36 PM, said:

pass and lead ♠A

Bill

You won't be on lead unless the opponents are nuts and sit this out.

Double and then spades.

why? is 3nt a ♥raise or something? sounds like to play. and X is takeout? Doesnt sound like we would mesh very well as partners...

Bill

[Phil]

bill1157, on Mar 25 2009, 09:18 PM, said:

Phil, on Mar 25 2009, 08:57 PM, said:

bill1157, on Mar 25 2009, 08:36 PM, said:

pass and lead ♠A

Bill

You won't be on lead unless the opponents are nuts and sit this out.

Double and then spades.

why? is 3nt a ♥raise or something? sounds like to play. and X is takeout? Doesnt sound like we would mesh very well as partners...

Bill

No 3N is not a heart raise but its 200 to 1 that RHO is jokering and will pull to 4♥.

[JLOL]

lol...Phil he said he is passing not doubling...

I don't blame you for being so shocked that anyone would pass that you assumed he doubled though

[Phil]

JLOL, on Mar 25 2009, 10:11 PM, said:

lol...Phil he said he is passing not doubling...

I don't blame you for being so shocked that anyone would pass that you assumed he doubled though

Yeah he did LOL. Never occurred to me someone would sell out to 3N.

[helene_t]

Agree with Nuno.

[Gerben42]

I would bid 4♠ directly before I double, I'm not going to expose the psyche to LHO.

[whereagles]

Gerben42, on Mar 26 2009, 10:13 AM, said:

I would bid 4♠ directly before I double, I'm not going to expose the psyche to LHO.

Thought about that, but what if pard happens to have a few high cards? He would never move on if you don't double first.

[Codo]

X and 4 ♠, the chance that lho makes something crazy because he has a hand which has another bid besides the opening is too small.

[mtvesuvius]

OK, so now from partner's point of view...

♠Q64
♥Q7
♦KQT9
♣AJ42

Should he go on?

------------ (2♥) - P
(3NT) - X - P - P
(4♥) - 4♠ - P - ?

[bill1157]

Sorry, I had looked at the hand very quickly and I did miss the strength. I guess the psyche did work on me!

Bill

[helene_t]

I think p will bid 5♠ and I will pass that, unless I have the understanding that it only asks for a heart control. I don't think I have that understanding, unfortunately.

[Codo]

So partner doubled and bid an own suit. HE was on lead against 3 NT, so he did not have AKxxxxxx and out, he has a really really strong hand. I have 14 HCPS more then I promised so far, so we are on slam territory.
I bid 5 Club, showing a control.

Or do you really need this pid to show a weak hand with long clubs? I doubt it, but in this case, bid 5 Spade and pass partners rebid.

When 5 ♠ askes for trump quality or something weird, bid a simple 6 Spade and pray.

[bid_em_up]

Phil, on Mar 25 2009, 08:57 PM, said:

bill1157, on Mar 25 2009, 08:36 PM, said:

pass and lead ♠A

Bill

You won't be on lead unless the opponents are nuts and sit this out.

Double and then spades.

Ummm, If I was your opp, I would be happy to claim -450, vs. your 680/1430. So there is nothing "nuts" about sitting it out, undoubled.

(however, if you double, you wont be on lead, because now they will not sit for it.)



edit: I didn't read any further than your original post b4 posting this, I see Justin pointed this out already now.

[bid_em_up]

mtvesuvius, on Mar 26 2009, 07:53 AM, said:

OK, so now from partner's point of view...

♠Q64
♥Q7
♦KQT9
♣AJ42

Should he go on?

------------ (2♥) - P
(3NT) - X - P - P
(4♥) - 4♠ - P - ?

Yes.

5♣

[whereagles]

helene_t, on Mar 26 2009, 01:18 PM, said:

I think p will bid 5♠ and I will pass that, unless I have the understanding that it only asks for a heart control. I don't think I have that understanding, unfortunately.

Well, I happen to have it, so I'd use it: 5♠ it is then.

The double of 3NT usually shows 16+ hcp and could easily be more. With 14 across to boot, a slam try is normal.

[vuroth]

whereagles, on Mar 26 2009, 05:29 AM, said:

Gerben42, on Mar 26 2009, 10:13 AM, said:

I would bid 4♠ directly before I double, I'm not going to expose the psyche to LHO.

Thought about that, but what if pard happens to have a few high cards? He would never move on if you don't double first.

Even n00bishly trying to concoct a hand where 3NT is values and somewhat of a gamble I can't do it. That means RHO is a joker, and that means MHO isn't broke, right?