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a nice stiff jack +3A go on ?

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Posted 2009-May-20, 10:35

AJxxx
J
Axx
ATxx


1S-----2H (GF)
3C ----3D
3NT-----------4H
???


3C show a Q extra.
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Posted 2009-May-20, 10:44

It depends a bit on your agreements. If 3 is a daisy-picking bid with, say,

x
AKQxxx
Kxxx
xx

then it's beter to pass. However, if pard is more likely to have

x
AKQxxx
KQxx
xx

Then I suppose you could move on.
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Posted 2009-May-20, 11:08

Go on? Where?
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Posted 2009-May-20, 11:09

No I don't move on, and I don't bid 3 with this. While I expect pard is 6-4 or 6-5, I need pard to cover all of his red suit losers except two and I think partner would have made more noise if that were the case.
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Posted 2009-May-20, 23:38

I don't like the 3C rebid. Maybe in your system there was no other choice. Does your partner agree this hand qualifies as a 3C rebid?
Anyway, assuming 3C was indeed light on promised values, I pass now. Need very specific cards from responder for slam to have a chance and also, if partner was serious and not just curious about slam, he would have bid something other than 4H.
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Posted 2009-May-21, 00:36

I don't go on and I also hate the 3C bid. Is this part of your system or did you just overbid?
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Posted 2009-May-22, 14:44

Ive bid 6H. maybe 4Nt or 5H is better but passing never crossed my mind.

Partner hand is

x
AQxxxxx
KQTx
K

If i bid just 5H he might pass afraid that i have a blank stiff H.


Partner took the "advanced cue bid" (even if you dont play those) road to 4H so hes showing a stronger hand than

4H directly
3H followed by 4H
3H followed by a 4D cue.

he doesnt have a pure 2 suiter (he would comeback at 4D) so hes should be showing a suit playable facing a void and extra slam potential.

Partner 3D bid with a crappy suit suit is dangerous (i prefer 3H) but if he bid 3H and I raise to 4 hell be a bit endplayed to RKC with only 1 keycard.

PS, 3C was showing a Q extra. Maybe its a small overbid but i dont think so. Rebidding 2S with 60% of the hands isnt my style.
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Posted 2009-May-22, 21:48

and, after all that beautiful back-and-forth partnership bidding to the perfect spot, the hearts broke 4 1, right? king ten fourth on or off side :)
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