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Posted 2010-November-04, 16:22

Anyone play set here? (the cardgame where you have to create sets of 3 cards where each property has to be identical or completely different)
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Posted 2010-November-04, 16:23

I taught Hanoi5 to play and he beat me in his 2nd or 3rd game ever. :(
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Posted 2010-November-04, 16:33

The set games here have colour combinations that are impossible for red-green colour-blind people. So although I think the idea is great, I cannot manage playing it.
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Posted 2010-November-06, 11:40

I used to play it a lot.

It's a really fun game for those who can tell the colors apart. Unfortunately Adam can't, and so I don't have much of an opportunity to play it anymore and am rusty.
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Posted 2010-November-06, 14:00

Beats me why they couldn't manage to pick better colour combinations. Surely the current choice costs sales...
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Posted 2010-November-06, 14:00

Can't Adam see the difference between for example marine, tomato and baby blue? Shouldn't be that difficult to design a deck with a different color scheme and have a copy shop printing them.
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Posted 2010-November-07, 03:30

It's a fun game but frustrating to play against my children and their friends.
They are simply much too fast.

I never realised I could blame the colourscheme though :rolleyes: .
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Posted 2010-November-07, 16:32

View Posthelene_t, on 2010-November-06, 14:00, said:

Can't Adam see the difference between for example marine, tomato and baby blue? Shouldn't be that difficult to design a deck with a different color scheme and have a copy shop printing them.


I'll ask him. I'm sure that we can find three colors that he could differentiate, but wouldn't that be really expensive? And even if it wasn't, I might have a problem with a copy shop being worried about it violating copyright.
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Posted 2010-November-10, 13:18

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I enjoyed playing Set in college, and wanted to play it with my husband. But he can't tell the red and green cards apart, so it is very frustrating for him to play. Is there anyway that the colors on the decks could be ones that aren't frustrating for Red-Green colorblind people? I would suggest something like Red, Baby Blue, and Black.
email to setgame at setgame dot com (their contact us on their website) and received:

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Thank you for contacting us about this matter.



When Set was created, color blindness was taken into consideration. The color-blind lab at Michigan State University helped to choose colors which were pleasing to the non-color blind population and were able to be seen by most color-blind people. Thus, the red used on the cards is not a pure red, and often is called orange. The green is often called yellow and the purple black or blue. Unfortunately, we could not get colors that all could see, especially under different lighting conditions.



We have also looked into producing an alternate colored specialty deck, but it proved to be cost prohibitive.



We received some good advice from one of our customers who just put a black line on all of the red cards (on the very edge of the cards) so that he could tell the difference between red and green. This may take some time to get used to but it seems to have worked.


I hope the above suggestion helps to even the playing field.

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Posted 2010-November-10, 14:01

I learned the game 10 years ago when I was active in a puzzle solving community. I also observed that kids play the game much better than the adults (I was 20yo then). I teach the game to my friends whenever I find the opportunity.
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Posted 2010-November-12, 06:08

View PostElianna, on 2010-November-07, 16:32, said:

I might have a problem with a copy shop being worried about it violating copyright.



Wow, that's sad. I can go to any copy shop and copy anything I want. In fact, I can go to the most important university in my country and find any movie, program, game, music, etc I want for around a dollar. Or maybe it is us who are sad...

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win


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Posted 2010-November-12, 19:00

I think the simplest solution to this would be to buy card covers and to stick a shape on the inside front of the problem suit(s) cards. Not only does this make recognising the suit independent of colour but it will also extend the lifetime of the cards themselves.
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Posted 2010-November-14, 03:30

I know a pair who are a bit like Sheldon and Amy and if they play set you have to feel sorry for the 3rd person who turns the cards...
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