[bid_em_up]

inquiry, on Aug 23 2010, 10:09 AM, said:

This was a hard slam to bid in the "non-bidding contest" world 2 out of 98 pairs). In fact 21% didn't even make it to 4♠ in a large tournament.

I'm curious to know what kind of tournament this was?

[Mbodell]

bid_em_up, on Aug 24 2010, 06:50 PM, said:

inquiry, on Aug 23 2010, 10:09 AM, said:

This was a hard slam to bid in the "non-bidding contest" world 2 out of 98 pairs). In fact 21% didn't even make it to 4♠ in a large tournament.

I'm curious to know what kind of tournament this was?

It also brings up an interesting question about how to grade the matchpointed field results. Are we supposed to assume that the field is day 3 of the platinum pairs? A club 299er game? Likely something in between, but where? For some of the contracts (like 7♣ versus 6nt on the first board, this one, the one with 6♦ versus 6♠) it will make a big difference.

My assumption has been sort of regional pair game strength field (I.e., average good field, but nothing special).

[gnasher]

Mbodell, on Aug 25 2010, 06:26 AM, said:

It also brings up an interesting question about how to grade the matchpointed field results.  Are we supposed to assume that the field is day 3 of the platinum pairs?  A club 299er game?  Likely something in between, but where?

I think we should assume a similar field to the one taking part in the bidding competiton.

In fact, you could score it based on the actual contracts reached, in combination with the expected number of tricks in each contract. You'd have to have a set of weighted scenarios to cater for different layouts of the cards.

[Cascade]

JLOGIC, on Aug 24 2010, 07:11 PM, said:

Just curious what people are doing in this type of spot. I obv think it's likely in a bidding contest when it goes 1S p ? that we can make a slam. However in real life I would always bid 1S p 4S with this hand, despite that being a very poor bidding contest bid (since I'm not preempting them). I have decided just to make my real bid and not operate and bid 2C on a hand like this, but I'm not sure if that's right.

Even in a bidding contest you might need to pre-empt. Some of the hands had instructions like "...bids 2♥ if possible".

We didn't make the deadline but we have bid the hands since.

We have an invitational plus splinter available and I chose to splinter with this hand - yes hands with two singletons are a problem. Fortuitiously i chose to splinter in diamonds and partner would not stop bidding after that.