[inquiry]

Scoring: MP

Opponents do not bid. Note to richard, yes this is a misery hand.

---

Six spades is a great contract, but runs a greater risk of a diamond ruff. Six notrump (even 4NT) has little play. Snce so many bid 6D, the scoring for it is lower than 10.

6d=8, 6S=7, 5S=3, 5D=1


6DN ant590 - crayzeejim
6DN bluecalm/redds
6DN East4Evil/sohcahtoa
6DN elianna/awm
6DN gnasher/catch22
6DS hrothgar/Free
6DN kfay/jchiu
6DN kristen33/jillybean
6DN lobowolf/bkjswan
6DN mbodell - javabean
6DN peachy/lg62
6DN rogerClee/cherdano
6DN sallyally/joylson
6DN Siegmund/MSchmahl
6DN tlgoodwin/timg
6DN tylere / bid_em_up
6SS olegru - driver733
5SS Flycycle/Wackojack
5DN karlson/threenobob
7DN jdonn/gib
6NN jlall/hanp

[awm]

Sort of funny observation on this board...

If most of the field is in 6♦/6♠, then 6♠ should be the top spot. For example, with the actual contracts 6♦ will score 11.5 or 12.5 depending on whether 6♠ makes, whereas 6♠ will score 20 if it makes and 1.5 if it doesn't. Since 6♠ will make a lot more than half the time, this would give it the top spot.

If a substantial portion of the field is in game only, then 6♦ will beat 6♠ handily.

[Fluffy]

agree with adam, 6♠ makes on diamonds 2-2, or on spade ace well placed, that is around 75% on gross math, and add to that that the guy with ♠A and 3 diamonds won't lead one ever for 87%.

[jdonn]

Gib tilted me so hard on this hand, I'm really really lucky it was the last one.

[matmat]

jdonn, on Aug 23 2010, 05:44 PM, said:

Gib tilted me so hard on this hand, I'm really really lucky it was the last one.

You still sore over this?

[jdonn]

Mad at myself too. But yes. It probably cost me advancing!

[cherdanno]

jdonn, on Aug 23 2010, 07:02 PM, said:

Mad at myself too. But yes. It probably cost me advancing!

What did it do?

[Siegmund]

One more voice chiming in to remind inquiry that the 75+% 6S beats 6D at MP. (By a substantial margin. Something like 6S 9, 6D 7, I would think.)

[jdonn]

cherdanno, on Aug 23 2010, 07:17 PM, said:

jdonn, on Aug 23 2010, 07:02 PM, said:

Mad at myself too. But yes. It probably cost me advancing!

What did it do?

1♥ 1♠
3♦ 3♠
3NT 6♦!

You can figure out what happened from there lol. I take the blame for guessing to bid a grand and being wrong (I didn't think he'd be off 3 aces and KQJ of trumps for his bid), but if only there were a way to find out if we were off an ace.... I have to work very hard in this partnership to keep up with the pairs who play blackwood

[hanp]

I think we had a good auction here.

1H - 1S
3D - 3S
3NT - 4D
5C - 5NT
6D

4H or 4S instead of 5C would have been a suggestion. 5NT was pick a slam, and 6D was Justin's pick. I would have been very happy with this auction if only I had passed. Unfortunately I inexplicably changed my mind and bid 6NT.

[Fluffy]

jdonn, on Aug 24 2010, 11:01 PM, said:

cherdanno, on Aug 23 2010, 07:17 PM, said:

jdonn, on Aug 23 2010, 07:02 PM, said:

Mad at myself too. But yes. It probably cost me advancing!

What did it do?

1♥ 1♠
3♦ 3♠
3NT 6♦!

You can figure out what happened from there lol. I take the blame for guessing to bid a grand and being wrong (I didn't think he'd be off 3 aces and KQJ of trumps for his bid), but if only there were a way to find out if we were off an ace.... I have to work very hard in this partnership to keep up with the pairs who play blackwood

you only have 18 HCP, how many do you think gib expects you to have? lol.

[JLOGIC]

hanp, on Aug 25 2010, 10:18 AM, said:

I think we had a good auction here.

1H - 1S
3D - 3S
3NT - 4D
5C - 5NT
6D

4H or 4S instead of 5C would have been a suggestion. 5NT was pick a slam, and 6D was Justin's pick. I would have been very happy with this auction if only I had passed. Unfortunately I inexplicably changed my mind and bid 6NT.

There was some lively discussion on the way to the lake about my 5C bid. A couple felt that it was obvious to bid keycard with my hand.

My reason for not bidding keycard was that you could be 5-4 with KQ(J) A in the pointeds, and on the obvious club lead slam is quite poor then. Also note that 5D>3N opposite that hand, so it's not like I need to panic that we passed 3N.

Some people bought that argument but felt I should bid 4H cuebid to leave open the possibility of you bidding keycard, or 4S over which I could now bid keycard. My reason for not doing that was I was unclear if 4H could ever be an offer to play.

It seemed to me at the time like I could have 6 hearts still, specifically 0643 with a double club stopper, or 1642 with a double club stopper. You could also bid KQJxx xx Axxx xx this way I think (though maybe 3H is right, bidding 3S can't be that far off), or we could simply belong in a 6-1 heart fit more than 5D at MP.

After discussing it though it seems like 4H would be much better as a cue and I was just being a little paranoid. At the end of the day I preferred not to be ambiguous though, and 5C got across the message that I had slam interest in diamonds with a club control and it seemed unlikely you'd play me to be denying a heart control! I still think just blasting keycard is too much though.

[hanp]

Yeah when you bid 5C I knew why you didn't bid 4H. I was planning to pass whatever you would bid over 5NT, but then I started to reconsider (6D was too straightforward, it couldn't be right!) and was leaning towards 6S to give you the choice between 6S and 6NT. Then I thought about some hands with AQ of clubs where 6NT was better and I thought you wouldn't be able to bid it. Very frustrating set of hands!