so they tell me that many top level experts are now switching to weak nt
some 12-14 only non vulnerable (tho i think real men ought to play 12-14 any vul)
is that true?
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#2
Posted 2010-September-05, 21:22
I did a study of the systems used in USBF championships. IIRC, there were only 2 or 3 pairs playing weak NT out of 60 or so pairs. To be sure, Martel and Stansby, on the winning team, are weak NT players.
Obviously, this analysis is only good for American pairs; this was an event picking the US team.
Obviously, this analysis is only good for American pairs; this was an event picking the US team.
codo said:
It is a fact that most people here write as if their opinion is a dogmatic fact.
eugene hung said:
My opinion is that this ought to win the award for best self-referential quote of the new year.
#3
Posted 2010-September-06, 00:12
Strangely enough, in the UK where weak 1N has tended to rule supreme, the opposite trend is taking place. UK is of course a very small proportion of the world, so worldwide it would not surprise me if the trend is as you say. My guess is that the equilibrium point will still be in favour of strong, when the dust has settled.
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Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
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r-m
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ing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees."Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
#4
Posted 2010-September-06, 01:50
1eyedjack, on Sep 6 2010, 01:12 AM, said:
Strangely enough, in the UK where weak 1N has tended to rule supreme, the opposite trend is taking place. UK is of course a very small proportion of the world, so worldwide it would not surprise me if the trend is as you say. My guess is that the equilibrium point will still be in favour of strong, when the dust has settled.
I've been seeing a lot of mid range 14-16 no trumps appearing over the last few years in the UK. Among club pairs weak no trump still dominates, but a number of the top pairs now play strong.
#5
Posted 2010-September-06, 03:29
Dirk Kuijt, on Sep 6 2010, 04:22 AM, said:
I did a study of the systems used in USBF championships. IIRC, there were only 2 or 3 pairs playing weak NT out of 60 or so pairs. To be sure, Martel and Stansby, on the winning team, are weak NT players.
For Martel and Stansby it is of course definitely not a case of "now switching to..."
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#6
Posted 2010-September-06, 03:58
Here strong NT is still overwhelming between the experts, but 14-16 is getting more popular quickly too.
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Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
#7
Posted 2010-September-06, 04:14
In Romania there's plenty of people playing 13-15 with a strong club. Maybe 15%.
In Iceland there's some people with 10-12 sometimes or 10-13 with or without a strong club. I'd say about 5% of people. The overwhelming standard is 15-17 2/1 etc.
In Iceland there's some people with 10-12 sometimes or 10-13 with or without a strong club. I'd say about 5% of people. The overwhelming standard is 15-17 2/1 etc.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
George Carlin
George Carlin
#8
Posted 2010-September-06, 04:25
Hi:
Fantunes wantabees are playing a 12-14 NT. The numbers are not large.
Regards,
Robert
Fantunes wantabees are playing a 12-14 NT. The numbers are not large.
Regards,
Robert
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