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The BWHoD strikes back

Poll: What's your rebid (43 member(s) have cast votes)

What's your rebid

  1. 2C (6 votes [13.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.95%

  2. 2S (2 votes [4.65%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.65%

  3. 2NT (1 votes [2.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.33%

  4. 3C (9 votes [20.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.93%

  5. 3D (23 votes [53.49%])

    Percentage of vote: 53.49%

  6. 3H (1 votes [2.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.33%

  7. 3S (1 votes [2.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.33%

  8. 4D (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. 4H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  10. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   manudude03 

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Posted 2010-September-20, 09:35

Scoring: MP


Gib tourney (55% rebate)

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1D-1H

What's your rebid? As a bonus question, what do you rebid if the ♦Q was a small diamond.
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Posted 2010-September-20, 09:56

3♣;3♦
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Posted 2010-September-20, 10:11

3♦ and 3♦.
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Posted 2010-September-20, 10:19

I like a systemic 2NT with this hand although maybe it would be better to reverse 2NT and 3♦, i.e. a 3♦ rebid would be forcing and 2NT is either a normal 3♦ rebid (w/o 3-card support) or a normal 2NT rebid.
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Posted 2010-September-20, 10:27

mohitz, on Sep 20 2010, 03:56 PM, said:

3♣;3♦

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Posted 2010-September-20, 10:34

Does this look like a flat hand? I'd lay odds on partner having 5 hearts and not being able to rebid over 3♦. Even if he has 4 hearts, I'm happy ruffing spades with my small ones, and game is likely.

3♥ it is for me.
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Posted 2010-September-20, 10:40

If undos are allowed, I might try a 3♥...oops...3♦ :D.

Just kidding -- make that a straight up 3♦ for me unless we have some specific systemic agreements to handle such hands...
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Posted 2010-September-20, 10:45

3♣, especially with gib who doesn't respond light.
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Posted 2010-September-20, 10:51

mohitz, on Sep 20 2010, 10:56 AM, said:

3♣;3♦

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Posted 2010-September-20, 11:35

For the 1st question, I'm going to use gnasher's "toy" ( 2S!) * when there is a 1H response to 1-minor and Opener is strong enough for a GF rebid -- together with my scheme for the followup.
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* Sept 10, 2010; http://forums.bridge...pic=41513&st=30
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♠ 4
♥ A95
♦ KQJ975
♣ AK6

1D - 1H
2S! - 2NT! ( asks for clarification )
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   3C! = 4s, no 3h, 5+d
   3D! = long Diam, no 4s, no 3h
   3H! = 3h and 5+d, but no 4s
   3S! = 4s and 3h, 5+d, ergo Cl shortness

After 3H!, Responder may just bid 4H with 5 cards and a minimum

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Edit ( addition ):
This way when you really have Cl as a 2nd suit, GF, then use: :
1D - 1H
3C = natural, GF; no 3h
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Posted 2010-September-20, 14:10

Playing with GIB, all the fancy systems will backfire so maybe y'all might reconsider. Must bid what GIB understands. That would be either 3C (GF, ostensibly natural) or 3D (good hand with long diamonds)
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Posted 2010-September-20, 14:22

Yeh, just accept what Josh would do. He has GIB as a partner in the contest, and does fine.
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Posted 2010-September-20, 15:29

With a human partner I understood well I'd try 3C and hope we had a sensible auction.

If nobody is looking, I might try 3S splinter, since that's what partner needs to know to evaluate his hand for slam purposes; I am happy to take ruffs in the Axx hand; and no way am I ever letting this hand die at the partscore level. No law against 4-3 major suit fits at matchpoints. (4D would tell the same lie about the quality of my hearts, and would show this diamond suit, but I think the single spade vs. AKx club message is important.)

Without the DQ I'd be forced into an overly heavy 3D rebid, and I'd expect something bad to happen.
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Posted 2010-September-20, 17:51

We play a systemic 2NT bid to show this and other hand types.
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Posted 2010-September-20, 17:52

3♦ and 2♦, but I never partnered GIB
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Posted 2010-September-20, 17:59

3♣ to part 1, near-WTP, though I have some sympathy for 2♣ if I wanted to be clever (famous last words: if we can only survive this round...)

Without the ♦Q, 2♦ and anything else is insane, unless I've miscounted the points again (AAKKJ left?)
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Posted 2010-September-20, 18:41

3♣ now. 2♥ w/o ♦Q, 3♦ with ♦T instead of Q.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2010-September-21, 02:27

ONEferBRID, on Sep 20 2010, 06:35 PM, said:

For the 1st question, I'm going to use gnasher's "toy" ( 2S!) * when there is a 1H response to 1-minor and Opener is strong enough for a GF rebid -- together with my scheme for the followup.

Lovely to see GIB is using that toy as well, especially in a natural systems forum...
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Posted 2010-September-21, 03:59

3D? Wtp?

And if we replace the Queen of diamonds: 3D? Wtp?

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