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Posted 2011-January-13, 15:49



4♣ leaping Michael's is not available (do you play it over this sort of opening?)

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2011-January-13, 16:00

View PostHanoi5, on 2011-January-13, 15:49, said:



4♣ leaping Michael's is not available (do you play it over this sort of opening?)

South could cue but he would look rather silly off 3 aces.
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Posted 2011-January-13, 16:07

What is wrong with being in 4♠?
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Posted 2011-January-13, 16:08

preempts work! I really hate bidding to a level where I have to finesse the preemptor for an offsuit(not his suit) card for the contract to make.
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Posted 2011-January-13, 16:12

View Post655321, on 2011-January-13, 16:07, said:

What is wrong with being in 4♠?


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Posted 2011-January-13, 17:04

No blame, even if N had A10xxx, x, Kxx, Axxx still no blame really for a very good slam missed, preempts work sometimes.
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Posted 2011-January-13, 17:48

I would definitely play leaping michaels over this opening.

No real blame on this hand given the methods though, and it's not clear to me that the ♦K is significantly more than 50-50 to be onside anyway.
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Posted 2011-January-13, 18:07

I wouldn't bid 4C even if that was an option.
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Posted 2011-January-13, 18:22

View Postrogerclee, on 2011-January-13, 18:07, said:

I wouldn't bid 4C even if that was an option.


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Posted 2011-January-13, 18:45

Am I missing something? 4♠ seems fine, no blame, unless you want to blame RHO for having the ♦K or LHO for not leading a heart?
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Posted 2011-January-13, 18:46

Not good enough for 4♣ in my book (although I play it as forcing).
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Posted 2011-January-14, 02:18

Hi,

#1 not playing Leaping Michaels - you still have the option to bid 3H, simple Michaels,
Leaping Michalels has the adv. that p knowes, we have a double fit, so he knowes
only we have likely double fit.

#2 Slam is certainly ok, but given the bidding, the finesse may or may not be 50%, so
staying out of the slame is not the end of this world.

#3 yes, we play Leaping Michaels (nonforcing), assuming 2H shwoes hearts+?, and we would
bid it.

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Posted 2011-January-14, 04:52

Yes I play 4♣ as LM here but I don't do it on yarboroughs. No blame.
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Posted 2011-January-14, 06:54

Did the weak 2H have D:K?
Or opening lead H, then another heart
-- not seeing the ruff-sluff?
D:AK now WANT to get to 6S.
My immediate Q (=3H) promises monster or good controls oM.
Try DAPO (Chiel Vorheiss sp?) where 3D>2H =
15+/- S+C (2-suiter not bid suit)
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Posted 2011-January-18, 10:35

Slam isn't bad in theory. If opps don't start hearts, it makes. If they do, maybe the diamond finesse is on.

In practice if LHO leads, say, ♥J, it's next to hopeless.
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