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#1 User is offline   mangosteen 

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Posted 2011-March-10, 15:28



Matchpoints.

What now?
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Posted 2011-March-10, 16:43

Well you liked this hand enough to bid 3 follow thru and qbid 5 after all 4 could be a qbid
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Posted 2011-March-11, 03:06

4H was intended as a, I've got long hearts bid, most probably a solid heart suit.
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Posted 2011-March-11, 07:44

Why didn't I rebid 3 the previous round?
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Posted 2011-March-11, 09:28

Partner has shown a strong 2-suiter ( 5+h/4+d ), game forcing .
You have a very good hand with excellent support in partner's 2nd suit.
Show your support instead of asking for a Sp-stop.
A Diam slam is very possible.

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Responder's rebids:
3H would be the weakest rebid... with as little as 2 card support.
4H would be a 3 card limit raise ( NOT a case of fast-arrival ).
3NT = support for neither

Sooo, in MY system, I would show Diam support using the next remaining 4 rebid steps as RKC-showing:
3S! = 0 ( 3 improbable )
4C! = 1 ( 4 impossible )
4D! = 2 - dQ
4S! = 2 + dQ

Sooo, for this hand, a 4D rebid not only conveys 4+ card support but 2 key cards w/o the Q.
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Posted 2011-March-11, 13:33

View Postmangosteen, on 2011-March-11, 03:06, said:

4H was intended as a, I've got long hearts bid, most probably a solid heart suit.

3D should be a natural 2nd suit here, GF.

If Opener had long, solid Hts, GF AND shortness he could make a self-splinter bid:
1H - 1NT!
3S!/4C!/4D!

With NO shortness, but long Hts and GF, there is a problem since 3H ( over 1NT! ) can be passed.
Some here use 3C! as the "could-be-artifical" GF bid and then rebid Hts to show the long Ht hand.
...... I suggest using 2S! as the "could-be-artifical" GF bid.... gives you a little bit more room for follow-ups.
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Posted 2011-March-11, 18:27

Yes, that is quite a nice way to show aces over 3D two4bridge. However, the question is also, since its imps, should the heart slam be looked into as well? Without knowing about the doubleton heart from you, surely he is not too interested in 6H, which would well be the best contract in MP...
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Posted 2011-March-11, 18:28

*Edited*
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Posted 2011-March-11, 18:29

View PostFree, on 2011-March-11, 07:44, said:

Why didn't I rebid 3 the previous round?


Yes, that was what I was thinking when I bid it :P
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Posted 2011-March-11, 20:07

geez i guess the rebids are all over the place here....I prefer 4c as a diamond cue and not 3s or 3h.

\I assume 3d is a real suit.....3c might be a fake suit. I assume pard will not make a jump shift into some random 4 card d suit.


Have little interest in showing xx in h or asking about s stoppers.

Pard has a huge hand and I got a huge hand for her given my previous 1nt.

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I do not mind at all going past 3nt.
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Posted 2011-March-12, 11:20

Couldn't I just have raised 3D to 4D last round? Why overcomplicate things?
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Posted 2011-March-12, 17:35

Partner's hand(Or rather, my hand):


In the actual game, partner decided to raise to 6. Without much discussion onto the meaning of such a bid, I started thinking about what kind of a shape he must have to not consider anything in hearts, since it was Matchpoints, I imagined partner's hand to have AK(No reason actually, on hindsight), A(But this he must have), and decided to raise it to 7.

And well, just for the heck of it as well I guess. We weren't doing that well and it was the last board of the duplicate. :lol:

Spade was led, dummy came down and the KJ of diamonds was doubleton offside. -1.

Everyone else were either in 6H= or 4H+2, our consolation the fact that someone went off in a cold 5H as well.

Should I have continued showing my stronger solid heart suit knowing that its MP? Was 3 the right bid?
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Posted 2011-March-12, 19:17

View Postmangosteen, on 2011-March-12, 17:35, said:

Partner's hand(Or rather, my hand):


Was 3 the right bid?

I think you have a GF 1 suiter ( if you have a method to show that.... perhaps the self-splinter in Cl over 1NT! ).
But I think you are a little shy to show a GF 2-suiter .
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Posted 2011-March-13, 11:51

Hi,

the main problem is 3S, you have 10-12 opposite a gf, opener needs to
take into account that you only have 4-7 with a heart fit, and you just
wanted to look for game?

Bid 4D, set the suit, and find out, if 6D has play.

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Marlowe
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Posted 2011-March-13, 13:59

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2011-March-12, 19:17, said:

I think you have a GF 1 suiter ( if you have a method to show that.... perhaps the self-splinter in Cl over 1NT! ).
But I think you are a little shy to show a GF 2-suiter .


Undiscussed with my partner, so my only GF was either 4H or 3D. If in doubt, natural :)
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