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Responsive Double

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Posted 2011-March-06, 01:31


North's double is explained as: Responsive double -- 3+C; 3+D; 4+S; 8+ total points.
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Posted 2011-March-07, 15:18

People have been complaining about the incorrect explanation of responsive doubles for as long as I can remember. The bids are correct according to the normal definition of the bid, it's just the explanation that doesn't match.

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Posted 2011-April-06, 10:27

What is the normal definition for (1M)-X-(2M)-X and for (1m)-X-(2m)-X ? Thanks.
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Posted 2011-April-06, 10:37

For (1M)-X-(2M)-X , the X should show at least 4-4 in the minors (usually more, but with some points and no Spades can with 44).

For (1m)-X-(2m)-X , the X should show at least 4-4 in the Majors (sometimes more).
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Posted 2011-April-06, 10:55

 chasetb, on 2011-April-06, 10:37, said:

For (1m)-X-(2m)-X , the X should show at least 4-4 in the Majors (sometimes more).


Then, the description here matches the "normal definition" but the hand doesn't.
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Posted 2011-April-06, 11:04

GIB totally blew the hand you just posted - it's bid is 2♥ or 3♥. I would lean toward 2, figuring that if partner had extras (s)he would make a move and then I would gladly bid game.
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Posted 2011-April-06, 16:41

 chasetb, on 2011-April-06, 10:37, said:

For (1M)-X-(2M)-X , the X should show at least 4-4 in the minors (usually more, but with some points and no Spades can with 44).

For (1m)-X-(2m)-X , the X should show at least 4-4 in the Majors (sometimes more).

Anyone able to show an example where GIB fails to bid its hand correctly using the first standard description
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