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relay bidding COG AT7x vs stiff

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Posted 2011-June-12, 22:21

JT9x
AT7x
Jxx
Kx

and partner showned

3145 18-22

partner bid S before you so hes going to play 4S (defense will be almost double dummy)

But if you play 3Nt they will know nothing of your hand (only that you have 8+pts)
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Posted 2011-June-13, 00:04

3N
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Posted 2011-June-13, 02:05

Can you come up with a hand for partner where 4S makes and 3NT doesn't?
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Posted 2011-June-13, 22:00

If partner has

AKQ
x
AKxx
QJT9x

Then depending on how we guess to hold up the heart suit, we can go wrong and lose 4 hearts and the AC, while we only have 6 top tricks. Spades is petty safe with the short heart hand able to ruff. There are other layouts like having a wide open diamond suit with no other losers where 3NT may fail, but i view those as much much less likely.
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Posted 2011-June-14, 02:20

3N. I don't see partner having AKQ of spades as a likely layout.
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Posted 2011-June-14, 02:22

Doesn't matter who declares, with these distributions and strength 3NT WTP.
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Posted 2011-June-15, 03:00

partner bid 3nt WTP and I was thinking that it might be close. But its isnt 3Nt has 99% of success vs 93% for 4S.

opener going to have a stiff honnor slightly under 50% of the times wich is way higher than i was expecting.
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Posted 2011-June-16, 08:35

View Postbenlessard, on 2011-June-15, 03:00, said:

opener going to have a stiff honnor slightly under 50% of the times wich is way higher than i was expecting.


Doesn't really surprise me. Think of it this way: Opps have 9-13 HCP, and only 8 of their 26 cards are hearts, so it's not really a given that they have KQJ...
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