[Phil]

Xx of clubs on the 1st round is enough of a reason not to bid Gerber initially. Actually I don't really need any reason not to bid Gerber but that's a different matter.

Its clear to show the shortness. I'd have to bend over backwards to create a hand with two aces where slam doesn't make xxx Axx KQJxx Ax (but move a spade to a club and its cold again) however there is a large set of hands where 7 is excellent but only if partner knows about my shortness.

3♦ followed by a 4 level ace ask let's us out in 4N but I will bid at least 6 otherwise.

[gnasher]

Phil, on 2011-September-13, 21:25, said:

Xx of clubs on the 1st round is enough of a reason not to bid Gerber initially.

Are you saying that you would want to stop out of slam opposite two small clubs and two aces? If so, can you provide an example of the sort of hand that you're trying to cater for, with a matching auction?

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Actually I don't really need any reason not to bid Gerber but that's a different matter.

If you really mean that, it's a rather odd thing to say. If you had a hand where you only wanted to know how many aces your partner had, without giving away any other information, and you had a tool to do exactly that, why would you choose some other route?

I realise that this might not be that hand, but to eschew Gerber as a matter of principle would be ridiculous.

This post has been edited by gnasher: 2011-September-15, 05:28