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[quote name='Codo' timestamp='1331733996' post='620789']
3. If 3 ♥ shows 4315 (or similar) and forcing values, what does 3 ♦show?
It would show a 4135 (4405), probably a hand worried about hearts in NT
An auction is this forcing?
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Posted 2012-March-14, 12:31
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Posted 2012-March-14, 12:51
Codo, on 2012-March-11, 17:39, said:
Some easy questions:
1. What do you lose if you play 4. suit forcing and 3 ♥ nonforcing?
2. What do you fear if you bid your 4 card spade suit before you bid your 3 card heart suit with a 4306 or 4315?
1. What do you lose if you play 4. suit forcing and 3 ♥ nonforcing?
2. What do you fear if you bid your 4 card spade suit before you bid your 3 card heart suit with a 4306 or 4315?
1- 4th suit ( in this case ♦). If we use this as 4th suit, we LOSE the natural meaning of it such as
Axxx
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AQxx
KQTxx
Axxx
x
AQx
KQTxx
Remember 3♥ bid is not only made for finding 5-3 fit before game but also gives partner some important information about your hand, for example
Axxx
AQx
x
KQTxx
vs
Kx
Kxxx
Txxx
AJx
Pd now knows what a great fitting hand u guys have and even if cant find slam, at least will not play inferior 3NT. Why would someone give away those benefits of natural bids in order to be able to play a 4-3 fit at 3 level when our side has 23-24 hcp ? Where is this NT phobia coming from ?
2- Again, why would someone want to rebid his 4 card ♠ at 3 level which he already showed ? It loses your ability to bid it natural with 6-5 or 5-5.
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Posted 2012-March-14, 17:11
MrAce, on 2012-March-14, 12:51, said:
1- ... Why would someone give away those benefits of natural bids in order to be able to play a 4-3 fit at 3 level when our side has 23-24 hcp ? Where is this NT phobia coming from ?
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MrAce, on 2012-March-14, 12:51, said:
2- Again, why would someone want to rebid his 4 card ♠ at 3 level which he already showed ? It loses your ability to bid it natural with 6-5 or 5-5.
I think this is talking about if opener raises ♥ with 3 card support instead of rebidding 1♠. But even with this style, if opener is too strong for a simple 2♥ raise with 4=3=1=5, would they not rebid 1♠? So you'd still need a way of checking for a 5-3 ♥ fit after 2NT.
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