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alerting light openings do you have to alert an 8 point opening?

#1 User is offline   SRJ 

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Posted 2012-April-01, 04:39

I play a system where opening 1♥ or 1♠ shows a 5 card suit and 8-14 points. With 15-19 points I open 1♣ with any dstribution. My CC is always posted when I play this system.
My question is: do I have to alert these light openings?
IMO the bid is natural, and I don't know of any rules that requires 12 points for an opening. But am I wrong here? A recent opponent seemed to think so.
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Posted 2012-April-01, 06:15

What jurisdiction are you asking about? BBO?
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Posted 2012-April-01, 06:21

There are a lot of people who think that if you make a bid they don't understand, it must be alerted. Mostly, they're wrong. B-)
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Posted 2012-April-01, 11:30

Alerting rules depend on the country. On BBO it depends on the director (tourneys) or is pretty much a free-for-all (tables).

It seems like it would be a courtesy to alert the light range and I certainly do when playing similar methods. ACBL (North America) rules would require such an alert.

I'm not aware of anyplace that requires twelve points to open, but there are some that require an "average hand" (ten points if fairly balanced) or require an alert for lighter than that.
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Posted 2012-April-01, 17:04

I think light openings would presumably be pre-alertable under whatever the jurisdictions 'tell the opposition what crazy crap you play' regulation, if not alertable.

If you're pre-alerted it, it should be fine not to alert, but if you haven't pre-alerted.
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Posted 2012-April-02, 01:29

Some jurisdictions have no concept of a "pre-alert" at all. Which doesn't mean you shouldn't warn the opponents of course.
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Posted 2012-April-02, 21:09

View Postmgoetze, on 2012-April-02, 01:29, said:

Some jurisdictions have no concept of a "pre-alert" at all. Which doesn't mean you shouldn't warn the opponents of course.


Do they have a 'introduce your basic methods' piece? Basically what do you have to say, if anything, before you pull the cards from the boards?
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Posted 2012-April-02, 22:57

View PostCthulhu D, on 2012-April-02, 21:09, said:

Do they have a 'introduce your basic methods' piece? Basically what do you have to say, if anything, before you pull the cards from the boards?

By regulation? "Hi, have fun." In practice of course something like "Hi, we play Swiss Acol" is not uncommon.
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Posted 2012-April-03, 02:38

View Postmgoetze, on 2012-April-02, 22:57, said:

By regulation? "Hi, have fun." In practice of course something like "Hi, we play Swiss Acol" is not uncommon.


Ha! Okay, that's interesting.
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