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Unfavourable, opponents are GIBs, spots are accurate.
♠AKT9
♥QJ8
♦QJT
♣432
♠Q6
♥975
♦AK7
♣KQJ65
1NT-2♣; 2♦-3NT
Lead ♥2, insert J, RHG wins the K. Shifts to ♣8, J, A. LHG cashes ♥A and clears hearts. Club from dummy shows the ace was a singleton, W pitching the ♠4. On the ♠9 from dummy, E plays the 2 and W the 3.
Now what? (♦ are 4-3)
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Yet another "drop or finesse"
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Posted 2012-September-28, 23:11
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Posted 2012-September-28, 23:54
Neither 
... Just kidding, play for the drop.
This is a perfect hand to pull off a basic squeeze, thank you GIB for rectifying the count! Picking up from your description, play to the Q♦ and back to the K♦ and A♦. Then lead the 6♠. Whether or not GIB covers, play your Ace and follow with the King. If the Jack hasn't fallen, run your Clubs. On a side note - if GIB doesn't cover with the Jack, I can almost guarantee that it doesn't have the Jack.
This line wins any time LHO has 2 or 3 Spades to the Jack, or when either opponent has the Jack as well as the Club length. It loses the overtrick if LHO has 4 or more Spades to the Jack, but at least the contract is guaranteed.
... Just kidding, play for the drop.This is a perfect hand to pull off a basic squeeze, thank you GIB for rectifying the count! Picking up from your description, play to the Q♦ and back to the K♦ and A♦. Then lead the 6♠. Whether or not GIB covers, play your Ace and follow with the King. If the Jack hasn't fallen, run your Clubs. On a side note - if GIB doesn't cover with the Jack, I can almost guarantee that it doesn't have the Jack.
This line wins any time LHO has 2 or 3 Spades to the Jack, or when either opponent has the Jack as well as the Club length. It loses the overtrick if LHO has 4 or more Spades to the Jack, but at least the contract is guaranteed.
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Posted 2012-September-29, 04:29
I don't follow - does this line always score 10 tricks? If W has the ♠J, then he's guarding the suit alone, and E can guard clubs alone, no?
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Posted 2012-September-29, 04:46
chasetb, on 2012-September-28, 23:54, said:
Neither ... Just kidding, play for the drop.
This is a perfect hand to pull off a basic squeeze, thank you GIB for rectifying the count! Picking up from your description, play to the Q♦ and back to the K♦ and A♦. Then lead the 6♠. Whether or not GIB covers, play your Ace and follow with the King. If the Jack hasn't fallen, run your Clubs. On a side note - if GIB doesn't cover with the Jack, I can almost guarantee that it doesn't have the Jack.
This line wins any time LHO has 2 or 3 Spades to the Jack, or when either opponent has the Jack as well as the Club length. It loses the overtrick if LHO has 4 or more Spades to the Jack, but at least the contract is guaranteed.
... Just kidding, play for the drop.This is a perfect hand to pull off a basic squeeze, thank you GIB for rectifying the count! Picking up from your description, play to the Q♦ and back to the K♦ and A♦. Then lead the 6♠. Whether or not GIB covers, play your Ace and follow with the King. If the Jack hasn't fallen, run your Clubs. On a side note - if GIB doesn't cover with the Jack, I can almost guarantee that it doesn't have the Jack.
This line wins any time LHO has 2 or 3 Spades to the Jack, or when either opponent has the Jack as well as the Club length. It loses the overtrick if LHO has 4 or more Spades to the Jack, but at least the contract is guaranteed.
The clubs don't run.
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Posted 2012-September-29, 04:56
It's GIB, but I still play for the drop and just take my plus. There's a chance it wouldn't cover in this situation, so I'll not risk the contract. In a club, I'm never finessing here. West pitching strongly suggests that he doesn't have Jxxx, and since E has 3 hearts 3-4 diamonds 4 clubs, either West has Jxxxx of spades or xxxx(x) of spades. Not worth the finesse.
I see no squeeze.
I see no squeeze.
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Posted 2012-September-29, 14:22
sometimes the hands are easier than they seem
we have 3spa 1h 3d 2c tricks. That is 9 off the top
we also have a free play for trick 10 via playing for
the drop in spades. There is no strong reason in the
bidding or the play to assume where the spade J
is and therefore we take our avg at worst and take
our chance with a tie for top with the drop. At imps
there is no choice as this is the only right play.
In addition to that if you play your 3 top dia before deciding on
the spades you will have the following end position (you will see
that lho should have led a small heart vs clearing the suit).
AKTx
void
void
xx
Qx
void
void
KQxx
If rho began life with spades Jxxx and club T987 what
6 cards are they going to hold onto?
If they hold 3c and 3s when we play for the drop the J appears
If they hold less than 3 clubs the clubs run.
For those that feel the spade finesse is 100% free of risk--is there
even the tiniest bit of doubt that rho may have begun life with 4 hearts
vs 3?????? You have to hate the fact that lho cleared the heart suit
(with no possible entry) vs leading low keeping communications open.
we have 3spa 1h 3d 2c tricks. That is 9 off the top
we also have a free play for trick 10 via playing for
the drop in spades. There is no strong reason in the
bidding or the play to assume where the spade J
is and therefore we take our avg at worst and take
our chance with a tie for top with the drop. At imps
there is no choice as this is the only right play.
In addition to that if you play your 3 top dia before deciding on
the spades you will have the following end position (you will see
that lho should have led a small heart vs clearing the suit).
AKTx
void
void
xx
Qx
void
void
KQxx
If rho began life with spades Jxxx and club T987 what
6 cards are they going to hold onto?
If they hold 3c and 3s when we play for the drop the J appears
If they hold less than 3 clubs the clubs run.
For those that feel the spade finesse is 100% free of risk--is there
even the tiniest bit of doubt that rho may have begun life with 4 hearts
vs 3?????? You have to hate the fact that lho cleared the heart suit
(with no possible entry) vs leading low keeping communications open.
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Posted 2012-October-01, 06:53
Antrax, on 2012-September-28, 23:11, said:
Unfavourable, opponents are GIBs, spots are accurate.
♠AKT9
♥QJ8
♦QJT
♣432
♠Q6
♥975
♦AK7
♣KQJ65
1NT-2♣; 2♦-3NT
Lead ♥2, insert J, RHG wins the K. Shifts to ♣8, J, A. LHG cashes ♥A and clears hearts. Club from dummy shows the ace was a singleton, W pitching the ♠4. On the ♠9 from dummy, E plays the 2 and W the 3.
Now what? (♦ are 4-3)
♠AKT9
♥QJ8
♦QJT
♣432
♠Q6
♥975
♦AK7
♣KQJ65
1NT-2♣; 2♦-3NT
Lead ♥2, insert J, RHG wins the K. Shifts to ♣8, J, A. LHG cashes ♥A and clears hearts. Club from dummy shows the ace was a singleton, W pitching the ♠4. On the ♠9 from dummy, E plays the 2 and W the 3.
Now what? (♦ are 4-3)
Drop. West lead hearts and his first discard was spades. I don't believe his original holding in spades was Jxxxx...
Steven
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