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Defensive Problem Who should make the decision

#1 User is offline   BunnyGo 

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Posted 2012-October-17, 10:47

You hold:

Jx, AKxxxxxx (8 of them), xx, x

The auction is:

4H-(4S)-AP

Partner leads the heard Q and dummy hits with:

AKx, Tx, AQJT, KQxx

What do you do? Overtake and lead another heart? Overtake and lead a club? Duck and hope partner figures it out from your signal low? Something else?

Edit: It was MPs. and fixed 14 card problem.

This post has been edited by BunnyGo: 2012-October-18, 20:40

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Posted 2012-October-17, 11:06

I overtake and play back a club if it holds.
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Posted 2012-October-17, 11:25

View PostBunnyGo, on 2012-October-17, 10:47, said:


You hold:

Jx, AKxxxxxx (8 of them), xxx, x

The auction is:

4H-(4S)-AP

Partner leads the heard Q and dummy hits with:

AKx, Txx, AQJT, KQxx




Most unusual - dummy has 19 points, 14 cards and a big spade fit, yet passed throughout.

And we have 14 cards too!
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Posted 2012-October-17, 12:15

View PostPhilKing, on 2012-October-17, 11:25, said:

Most unusual - dummy has 19 points, 14 cards and a big spade fit, yet passed throughout.

And we have 14 cards too!


Gah! My error.

We were 2821

Dummy was 3244

Edit: and yes, the pass throughout was weird, she must have seen her partner's 4 spade bids before.
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Posted 2012-October-18, 04:06

View PostPhilKing, on 2012-October-17, 11:25, said:

Most unusual - dummy has 19 points, 14 cards and a big spade fit, yet passed throughout.

I expect dummy was aware of the regulation about not having agreements about bidding after irregularities, so had no way to show 14 cards....
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Posted 2012-October-18, 17:00

is this IMPS or MP?? the difference is HUGEEEEEEEEEEE

AT MP where the opps merely making 4s should be reasonable I would not go crazy trying for
a set. It seems way more likely lho would have 1 heart than p. Since we are going to guess
the % play would seems to be overtake the (with the K so its obvious its intentional) Q and
return a low club. With any luck p will have the A and can return a club for you to ruff and
NOW go for the huge MP score my trying to cash the 2nd heart. Be satisfied with above average
if you can do that and still have a chance for a top.

AT IMPS where overtricks are of small consequence we use our fevered imagination. We cannot set
this hand if p has 2 hearts, We overtake the heart Q and cash the heart A then make our club switch.

We do not do something cute like overtake the heart and lead a low heart back for p to ruff and see our
obvious desire for a club because there is no reason p has to have a spade. Even if p were 66 in the minors
our 4h bid would have quieted them (especially looking at that dummy wow). Doing the :cute: play could
easily cost your side a set when simple signalling should do the trick. Save the theatrics for when it is
needed.
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Posted 2012-October-18, 18:20

After we overtake, if the second heart cashes, partner gets to make a pitch.

If he throws a discouraging club, you can go for the trump promotion. Maybe declarer has T9xxxx xx Kxx Ax - it would help explain the non-raise.

Assuming pairs, of course. It's a bit of a non-hand at imps.
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Posted 2012-October-18, 20:38

It was matchpoints. IMPs defense is also interesting.
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Posted 2012-October-18, 21:35

Oh, dummy has only two hearts? I was wondering why this was even posted as a problem, with Txx it makes no sense to play a second heart before getting a club ruff.
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