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What's the best way to look for slam? Moster hand and partner bids our suit...

#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2013-January-23, 21:58

MP's, all white:

AKQJxxx
KQ
Kxx
A

(Pa)-Pa-(1)-X
(Pa)-1-(2)-???

What if opener passes?

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2013-January-23, 22:10

Set Diamonds as trump, and then ask for Keys :rolleyes:
"Bidding Spades to show spades can work well." (Kenberg)
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Posted 2013-January-23, 22:18

I choose jump bid 4,slammish.And then partner can rebid 4,I must bid 4nt at once.
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Posted 2013-January-24, 05:30

What do you play 2 followed by 3 as here Hanoi? What about a direct 3? I think the logical start is either a double or some form of (heart) cue bid, whichever will allow me to set spades as trumps in a GF way at the 3 level and force a cue bid out of partner.
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Posted 2013-January-24, 05:55

I would Splinter here, although I generally avoid to splinter with an ace. But here partner will always cue with an ace, if he cannot we are missing 2 aces so we are never playing 6.
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Posted 2013-January-24, 09:00

I think the right question was asked by Zelandakh: How do you set up spades as trumps and 'force' partner to cue-bid? East held:

9xx
J9xx
AJT
Txx

Some Easts bid 1NT over the double (and over that I guess 3 or even 2 sets up the trump suit), but some bid 1, is 4 a splinter which sets spades as trumps and asks partner to cue-bid?

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2013-January-24, 09:24

View PostHanoi5, on 2013-January-23, 21:58, said:

MP's, all white:

AKQJxxx
KQ
Kxx
A

(Pa)-Pa-(1)-X
(Pa)-1-(2)-???


Yesterday, I too wondered whether the 4C! splinter would demand cuebidding .
Partner may have 'cold feet' and just try to closeout at 4S with the hand shown :

♠9xx
♥J9xx
♦AJT
♣Txx
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Posted 2013-January-24, 09:52

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2013-January-24, 09:24, said:

Yesterday, I too wondered whether the 4C! splinter would demand cuebidding .
Partner may have 'cold feet' and just try to closeout at 4S with the hand shown :

♠9xx
♥J9xx
♦AJT
♣Txx



Surely it doesnt demand. If I hold xxxx Kxxx xxx xx I am no sure if I will cuebid (I think its very close). But holding an ACE I think its mandatory.
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Posted 2013-January-24, 14:46

Bridge logic suggests that 4 forces a cue with an A. You are forcing to game opposite a partner who could have 0 points, and doing it in a way that suggests you are interested in exploring more than game (although I guess your splinter could be helping involve partner in a penalize/bid on decision - but really it is a slam investigation). If partner has an ace, he must show it. I would have said the odds of a slam are quite small though. Partner is not that likely to have an A (with the opening bidder), but even if he does, an A alone is not enough. If the A is hearts might lose two diamonds. Even when the A is diamonds might lose a 3rd round diamond (here you needed the heart J). So I wouldn't really fault a 4 call instead of 4.
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