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I'm looking for the most common way to treat bidding sequences such as (1♦) dbl (1♥)
what does double mean (exactly)? and what are the available forcing bids?
I'm saying exactly because I think most use it as anti-psyche-ish, but can this be 3 cards, any number of cards, or specifically 4 cards?
In combination with that, what does 2♥ mean? Does it show a 5th heart or is it a cuebid, in which case what should be the difference with 2♦?
Does it make a difference if 4th hand initially passed?
I've had the following bidding sequence with an expert:
my hand: ♠KT98 ♥T87 ♦A4 ♣KJT7
non vul vs vul, partner passes, rho 1♦, me DBL, lho 1♥, partner 2♥, righty passes.
What should I have expected?
Side question: do you agree with dbl?
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how to treat (1x) dbl (1y)
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Posted 2013-April-16, 04:15
I think there are geographical variations in how these bids are played. In England, it's normal to play that that:
- Double shows four of the suit, or five in a hand too weak for the two-level. I suppose it could also be a very good hand with five hearts, which plans to make another move.
- 2♥ shows five, with the values for the two-level.
- Higher heart bids are what they would have been if responder had passed.
- 2♦ is a cue-bid, and might or might not have four hearts (eg it could be 4-4 in the majors).
- Being a passed-hand makes no difference.
With your example hand, I agree with the double and I would pass 2♥.
- Double shows four of the suit, or five in a hand too weak for the two-level. I suppose it could also be a very good hand with five hearts, which plans to make another move.
- 2♥ shows five, with the values for the two-level.
- Higher heart bids are what they would have been if responder had passed.
- 2♦ is a cue-bid, and might or might not have four hearts (eg it could be 4-4 in the majors).
- Being a passed-hand makes no difference.
With your example hand, I agree with the double and I would pass 2♥.
This post has been edited by gnasher: 2013-April-16, 04:18
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2013-April-16, 04:51
Hi fonzie, wellcome to the Forum. I agree with your double, your pass and would play the same style as Andy.
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Posted 2013-April-17, 09:08
_fonzie__, on 2013-April-16, 04:01, said:
I'm looking for the most common way to treat bidding sequences such as (1♦) dbl (1♥)
what does double mean (exactly)? and what are the available forcing bids?
I'm saying exactly because I think most use it as anti-psyche-ish, but can this be 3 cards, any number of cards, or specifically 4 cards?
In combination with that, what does 2♥ mean? Does it show a 5th heart or is it a cuebid, in which case what should be the difference with 2♦?
Does it make a difference if 4th hand initially passed?
I've had the following bidding sequence with an expert:
my hand: ♠KT98 ♥T87 ♦A4 ♣KJT7
non vul vs vul, partner passes, rho 1♦, me DBL, lho 1♥, partner 2♥, righty passes.
What should I have expected?
Side question: do you agree with dbl?
what does double mean (exactly)? and what are the available forcing bids?
I'm saying exactly because I think most use it as anti-psyche-ish, but can this be 3 cards, any number of cards, or specifically 4 cards?
In combination with that, what does 2♥ mean? Does it show a 5th heart or is it a cuebid, in which case what should be the difference with 2♦?
Does it make a difference if 4th hand initially passed?
I've had the following bidding sequence with an expert:
my hand: ♠KT98 ♥T87 ♦A4 ♣KJT7
non vul vs vul, partner passes, rho 1♦, me DBL, lho 1♥, partner 2♥, righty passes.
What should I have expected?
Side question: do you agree with dbl?
2♥ is natural (5crd suit). 2♦ is the cuebid. Your double is just fine (strength & shape is ok).
Steven
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