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Posted 2013-May-17, 09:30

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1. unfav Qx AQxxxx Axx xx 1S P 2S ? I.e. strong enough for 3H?

2. all vul K9x xx KQT9 KQJT 1H P 3H ? I.e. double? 3H was preemptive

3. all white Kx J9 KJTxxx T93 1D* (1S) 2D* P 2H P P ? 1D was artificial 10-15 and 2D showed hearts. You spaced doubling the artificial bid (well I did anyway). Pass now? Bid 2S or 3D?
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Posted 2013-May-17, 09:55

View Poststraube, on 2013-May-17, 09:30, said:

all imps

1. unfav Qx AQxxxx Axx xx 1S P 2S ? I.e. strong enough for 3H?

2. all vul K9x xx KQT9 KQJT 1H P 3H ? I.e. double? 3H was preemptive

3. all white Kx J9 KJTxxx T93 1D* (1S) 2D* P 2H P P ? 1D was artificial 10-15 and 2D showed hearts. You spaced doubling the artificial bid (well I did anyway). Pass now? Bid 2S or 3D?

I can't decipher the # 3 bidding ... are there some parentheses missing ?

1D* (1S) 2D* (P)
2H   ( P)   P   ( ? )

Kx J9 KJTxxx T93
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Posted 2013-May-17, 10:04

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2013-May-17, 09:55, said:

I can't decipher the # 3 bidding ... are there some parentheses missing ?

1D* (1S) 2D* (P)
2H   ( P)   P   ( ? )

Kx J9 KJTxxx T93


Yes that's right.
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Posted 2013-May-17, 10:08

1. Pass. Double by LHO will usually be an art game try so difficult to penalise but still too risky for me.

2. Clear pass. Pard can't bid 1.

3. 2. Part will not overcompete here with us having passed previously.
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Posted 2013-May-17, 10:13

duplicate
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Posted 2013-May-17, 11:41

1) Yes, easily

2) Agree with broze. Partner couldn't bid 1S so you don't really need to play in spades. 4 of a minor looks a long way off with no aces and a doubleton heart. It's still possible doubling could work esp if partner has a stiff heart but I think it's an anti-percentage action. I could see myself just being like woah a 14 count and short hearts I double! though lol.

3) I would bid 2S, even though the J9 of hearts probably argue against it. It is all white and if they have 8 hearts (which is likely) there is a reasonable chance I push them to 3H or something. If partner is 5-4 in the majors passing is right but it's not guarantee that both 2Ms are down so w/e.
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Posted 2013-May-18, 03:44

1-Yes

2-Double

3-I would double 2 (showing i have diamonds, if dbl of an artificial bid means that) Now i would bid 2
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Posted 2013-May-21, 04:36

1. Yes. This is the auction Ken gave some creativity to, providing a system that gives 2 ways of bidding 3 (direct = good; via 2NT = competitive) but here you have game interest so I think the good overcall is indicated anyway.
2. Assuming you overcall 1 reasonably aggressively, the upside to doubling here is smaller than the risk.
3. I think X of 2 should show Hx here and is clear. Even if it showed diamonds I would do it. Having stepped in for the wine waiter I will try 2 since the vulnerability makes bidding too tempting. I think this sequence is usually showing a weaker hand with 3 small spades though.
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Posted 2013-May-21, 05:13

View PostZelandakh, on 2013-May-21, 04:36, said:

1. Yes. This is the auction Ken gave some creativity to, providing a system that gives 2 ways of bidding 3 (direct = good; via 2NT = competitive) but here you have game interest so I think the good overcall is indicated anyway.


Not sure if this should apply here since there's a pretty big risk of hearts getting blown out when it matters by for instance a 3S bid on your left. I prefer to just play 2N is H+minor here even though in other auctions I play what you said (like 1S X 2S p p X p 3H=good).
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Posted 2013-May-21, 06:36

Ken's suggestion was along the lines of:
(1) - P - (2)
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X = 3-suited or both minors
2NT = overcall in a minor or competitive with hearts
3m = minor + hearts
3 = good heart overcall

the main idea being to get both suits into play immediately when holding the 2-suiter.
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Posted 2013-May-21, 12:48

Sorry, missed the Ken reference, lolreadingcomprehension.

Anyways, my point remains that I think having to bid 2N with a competitive hand in hearts is not great due to possible preemption. If I played that I'd rather just play 2N shows an overcall in a minor and always bid 3H with hearts.
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Posted 2013-May-21, 16:51

I'd wimp out and pass on the first one. The Qx of spades is very defensive and you've got no shape at all plus what looks like a rubbish suit (I take it you would have not put "x" for 10 or 9). Second one is closer - if only one of the small hearts was a small spade then we have an X, but as it stands I think I have to pass.

Third one I think we can squeeze out 2S, as much as I hate pretending to have a fit when we don't. Still, partner should know that given I didn't bid 2S on the first round.

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Posted 2013-May-22, 02:13

View PostJLOGIC, on 2013-May-21, 12:48, said:

If I played that I'd rather just play 2N shows an overcall in a minor and always bid 3H with hearts.

Even if the only heart hands in 2NT were those that you felt were too weak for an immediate 3 overcall? Or do you think this would end up being more useful for the opponents when they get to declare the hand then for us in trying to compete?
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