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Posted 2013-July-05, 19:21

Dummy plays a club and partner plays the J which declarer covers with the K, you hold AQxx and the ten is not to be seen, who has it?

The question is, what does second hand play from two honour cards or from a sequence of at least two cards? Is there a standard? Does the whole hand have anything to do with it? Does it change if the lead comes from the hidden hand?

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Posted 2013-July-05, 21:32

View PostHanoi5, on 2013-July-05, 19:21, said:

Dummy plays a club and partner plays the J which declarer covers with the K, you hold AQxx and the ten is not to be seen, who has it?

The question is, what does second hand play from two honour cards or from a sequence of at least two cards? Is there a standard? Does the whole hand have anything to do with it? Does it change if the lead comes from the hidden hand?


A good working rule is lowest from two touching honors, highest from three touching honors....

Thus with JT(x), partner will play the Ten
From JT9(x) partner will play the JACK,
Etc.

Not everyone plays this way but I do. So here, when partner flies the JACK, he has either the JT9(x) or he doesn't have the ten.
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Posted 2013-July-05, 21:54

View Postinquiry, on 2013-July-05, 21:32, said:

A good working rule is lowest from two touching honors, highest from three touching honors....

Thus with JT(x), partner will play the Ten
From JT9(x) partner will play the JACK,
Etc.

Not everyone plays this way but I do. So here, when partner flies the JACK, he has either the JT9(x) or he doesn't have the ten.


Highest from 3 and lowest from 2. If the 2 are a doubleton is it the same? What is special about this distinction? Is there a standard?

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2013-July-06, 04:45

View PostHanoi5, on 2013-July-05, 21:54, said:

Is there a standard?


No, there's no standard. Here are some other discussions of the subject:

http://bridgewinners...litting-honors/

http://www.bridgebas...by-second-hand/
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2013-July-07, 15:51

I am lazy and hate too much guesswork I prefer the simplest just as I would lead the top
of a sequence I prefer p to play the lowest of a sequence when following suit. P may SIGNAL
the top of a sequence when they cannot win the current trick ie p leads the A and I hold
QJT9 I will play the Q (assuming I do not have something else that is more important to do).

I fail to see the benefit of playing the top of a sequence when following suit since it leaves
an unwelcome element of doubt and defense is difficult enough. Having said this--

IF a player has shown 5 or more of a suit in the bidding, It is then reasonable to play the top of a sequence
as this will help define the holding in said suit quickly.
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