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Bidding 6 diamonds and 3 points

#1 User is offline   infiltrado 

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Posted 2013-September-06, 20:02

My pt open 1 club. I have 6 diamonds and 3 points. I pass? Right or wrong?
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Posted 2013-September-06, 21:39

Depends on your agreements. If you're playing weak jump shifts here, you can bid 2 diamonds. If you're not, you should probably pass.
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Posted 2013-September-07, 10:10

As blackie says, it depends, at least somewhat, on agreements. I am not generally a fan of weak jump shifts but here I would be delighted to be playing them and I would then bid 2 pretty much independently of where my three points are. The main upside that I see for wjs is exactly this ability to get out of a spot that is likely to be hopeless with some safety and clarity.

If not playing wjs, I dunno. If the diamonds are KTxxxx then I think I bid 1. If my three points are something like the Q of spades and the J of hearts, I think I pass and hope for the best. So far, no one has doubled. And if we escape from playing in 1, any subsequent action by me should be unambiguous. And, on occasions, partner has club length.

I think modern practice is to bid very very readily over 1 on really minimal values. I have seen this work, I have seen this not work.Often people who do this have a device, such as the Wolff sign-off, to get out at the three level if opener rebids 2NT. That would help.
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Posted 2013-September-08, 00:13

It depends on my methods. If I have a way to get out in 2D after 1C 1D 1NT then 1D is fine. Although 765432 of D is not so good.
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Posted 2013-September-08, 11:22

Pass. 6 card major? More complex.
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Posted 2013-September-08, 14:17

If partner is weak, as the opponents are likely to be bidding or doubling, I think pass is best, hoping that you can bid 2 next time round.

If partner has a strong hand and you have no agreements on the meaning of 1 1 2NT 3, then that would be better if partner understands it as a weak takeout, but you would be badly placed if he bids the equally likely 3 or 2.
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