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Well:
North felt strongly that South shouldn't have bid 5C with:
a) a wasted ♠A, and
b) ♥xxx
And (s)he defends 6D, saying that even on the given hand we might make 6D on a non-club lead, so if South shows up with heart shortness, 6D is likely to be an excellent spot.
The hands North said (s)he was imagining were roughly: Kxxx / x / xxxxx / AKx or Kxxx / Kx / xxxx(x) / Ax(x)
South felt that (s)he was worth one more try holding 2 aces, since North was obviously distributional, and if North is 0562 -- not unlikely on this auction, especially since North chose to bid 4H instead of 4S -- then the spade ace is not wasted. Not to mention that 5C keeps us below 6D, and South can hardly have more values.
Thoughts?
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Posted 2013-November-01, 07:56
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Posted 2013-November-01, 08:05
wyman, on 2013-November-01, 07:56, said:
Well:
North felt strongly that South shouldn't have bid 5C with:
a) a wasted ♠A, and
b) ♥xxx
And (s)he defends 6D, saying that even on the given hand we might make 6D on a non-club lead, so if South shows up with heart shortness, 6D is likely to be an excellent spot.
The hands North said (s)he was imagining were roughly: Kxxx / x / xxxxx / AKx or Kxxx / Kx / xxxx(x) / Ax(x)
North felt strongly that South shouldn't have bid 5C with:
a) a wasted ♠A, and
b) ♥xxx
And (s)he defends 6D, saying that even on the given hand we might make 6D on a non-club lead, so if South shows up with heart shortness, 6D is likely to be an excellent spot.
The hands North said (s)he was imagining were roughly: Kxxx / x / xxxxx / AKx or Kxxx / Kx / xxxx(x) / Ax(x)
With the example hands being quite possible, we have --as stated before-- a case where the auction is fine up through 5C...and then North not giving South the credit for the brains to continue to 6D over 5D with them, but rather just breaking the cooperation and deciding all by himself.
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Posted 2013-November-01, 10:39
wyman, on 2013-November-01, 07:56, said:
Well:
North felt strongly that South shouldn't have bid 5C with:
a) a wasted ♠A, and
b) ♥xxx
And (s)he defends 6D, saying that even on the given hand we might make 6D on a non-club lead, so if South shows up with heart shortness, 6D is likely to be an excellent spot.
The hands North said (s)he was imagining were roughly: Kxxx / x / xxxxx / AKx or Kxxx / Kx / xxxx(x) / Ax(x)
South felt that (s)he was worth one more try holding 2 aces, since North was obviously distributional, and if North is 0562 -- not unlikely on this auction, especially since North chose to bid 4H instead of 4S -- then the spade ace is not wasted. Not to mention that 5C keeps us below 6D, and South can hardly have more values.
North felt strongly that South shouldn't have bid 5C with:
a) a wasted ♠A, and
b) ♥xxx
And (s)he defends 6D, saying that even on the given hand we might make 6D on a non-club lead, so if South shows up with heart shortness, 6D is likely to be an excellent spot.
The hands North said (s)he was imagining were roughly: Kxxx / x / xxxxx / AKx or Kxxx / Kx / xxxx(x) / Ax(x)
South felt that (s)he was worth one more try holding 2 aces, since North was obviously distributional, and if North is 0562 -- not unlikely on this auction, especially since North chose to bid 4H instead of 4S -- then the spade ace is not wasted. Not to mention that 5C keeps us below 6D, and South can hardly have more values.
Except MAYBE Kxxx Kx xxxx Axx, those hands aren't minimum limit raises. I'm not real sophisticated yet at using constructed hands to make these types of decisions, but it seems if you have to assume an extra trump beyound what partner has shown, you're likely in a danger zone.