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#1 User is offline   CSGibson 

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Posted 2013-November-18, 03:35



2/1, weak NT, and playing a potentially short club (4432 only). Partner's raise to 3 is sufficiently preemptive that you should not bid 3N with 18-19.

edit: I should also mention that we won, 57-43. So there is no angst in these problems.
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Posted 2013-November-18, 06:43

I would hit it, you have 3.5 certain tricks and it could easily go down 2.
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Posted 2013-November-18, 08:18

Zero chance of +1 and every possibility of down two. Easy double.
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Posted 2013-November-18, 11:28

Lower the boom -- it would take something exceptional like a club void and KQ of on my left for 4 to make.
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Posted 2013-November-18, 11:40

View PostCSGibson, on 2013-November-18, 03:35, said:


2/1, weak NT, and playing a potentially short club (4432 only). Partner's raise to 3 is sufficiently preemptive that you should not bid 3N with 18-19.

I should also mention that we won, 57-43. So there is no angst in these problems
IMO Pass = 10, Double = 9. and
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Posted 2013-November-18, 15:59

Double = 10

Pass = 0

This is a common enough scenario, your preempt forced them to guess a bit and they punted game with a fit and they were wrong and we are 95 % sure that they are wrong, let's just double. Even if declarer has KQ of spades and the DK they are unlikely to have the entries to dummy to pick up everything. We are probbably going to get a tap going also. Even if dummy has the short clubs if they only have 3 spades they cannot ruff 2 clubs in dummy while picking up our trumps.

It's just terrible to not X.
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Posted 2013-November-18, 16:58

View PostCSGibson, on 2013-November-18, 03:35, said:

I should also mention that we won, 57-43.

Congrats.
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Posted 2013-November-18, 23:05

Double.

And I would suggest bidding 3 with a hand where partner is expected to bid 3NT with 18-19 balanced. Otherwise it is too low frequency and you want to be making this sort of bid as often as possible.
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Posted 2013-November-19, 05:09

View Postnigel_k, on 2013-November-18, 23:05, said:

Double.

And I would suggest bidding 3 with a hand where partner is expected to bid 3NT with 18-19 balanced. Otherwise it is too low frequency and you want to be making this sort of bid as often as possible.


Your suggestion is noted and disagreed with in context of our system, which employs a weak NT - basically if we employed your method, we should make the bid with a good 6 to a bad 8 HCP, and nothing else ish, or we wouldn't know what to do when we had a strong NT.
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Posted 2013-November-19, 14:29

Doubled, down 2, win 9.


Sorry, have no idea how to resize this.
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