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#1 User is offline   ArtK78 

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Posted 2014-April-27, 07:07

I stopped posting my complaints about GIB as I thought it sounded like whining for no real purpose. But this one really got to me.


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GIB holds a 4333 hand with an Ace. When I doubled and competed suddenly GIB bids RKCB. This is incredibly absurd and got the expected result.

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Posted 2014-April-27, 07:58

View PostArtK78, on 2014-April-27, 07:07, said:

I stopped posting my complaints about GIB as I thought it sounded like whining for no real purpose. But this one really got to me.


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GIB holds a 4333 hand with an Ace. When I doubled and competed suddenly GIB bids RKCB. This is incredibly absurd and got the expected result.

What is truly amazing in this IMP pair tournament is that my -200 result was plus IMPs.


actually GIB is 3=2=5=3 but your point valid, GIB bid a 3 card suit in response to a takeout double, doesn't it know this is a poor suit to go for game never mind slamming. Was willing to play in 3 and suddenly want to play in slam when you haven't shown significant extra values.

the description of 4N is hilarious 3+ 1+hcp 1- total points who goes for slam on that. partner would bid slam themselves if that's all they needed.
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Posted 2014-April-27, 08:04

Yes, 3C has no upper limit in the description, but surely it was non-forcing. If anything it is limited by the fact that both opponents are bidding their socks off, and generally GIB is not slow to trust the opponents. 4C was non-forcing and, furthermore, cannot be based on more values than whatever top limit is appropriate for a non-forcing 3C on the previous round.

What about North's 2C? It fits the description given, but what would pass have meant? An intention to defend 1SXX?? I hardly think so. Yes, he has a (marginal) preference for Clubs over Hearts, But given the availability of pass (and for that matter 1N) I would prefer 2C to show primary support for the suit. Happy to be overruled.



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Posted 2014-April-27, 08:17

Balancing with GIB is so dangerous.
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Posted 2014-April-27, 09:24

View Postdicklont, on 2014-April-27, 08:17, said:

Balancing with GIB is so dangerous.

OP never balanced, he made several direct bids. The trigger was the 4 bid. Check out this explanation from another table:

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Posted 2014-April-27, 09:37

Wow. He could have 28 total points and just bid 3C
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"

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