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ggwhiz, on 2015-January-15, 10:41, said:

Wow! I would suggest a forensic audit of your partners 3-level overcalls

For OBAR bids you don't need the world, so no, I won't follow your suggestion...

[gszes]

I have no problem with pass the first round but it seems very ostrich
like (especially at IMPS) to pass the second time. I wonder if we held
xx Axxxx xx Axxx if that would make any difference. P bid 3d and while
we hold only slightly better than expected it is hard to imagine allowing
the opps to tread all over us when 3n is still quite plausible and we only
have to invest 1 level to find out.

Far too many hands similar to Kx x AKQxxx Axxx where 3n will roll. The lighter
the opening bids the more room for p to have a good hand.

x to show the other two suits:)

[PhilKing]

gszes, on 2015-January-15, 13:19, said:

I have no problem with pass the first round but it seems very ostrich
like (especially at IMPS) to pass the second time. I wonder if we held
xx Axxxx xx Axxx if that would make any difference. P bid 3d and while
we hold only slightly better than expected it is hard to imagine allowing
the opps to tread all over us when 3n is still quite plausible and we only
have to invest 1 level to find out.

Far too many hands similar to Kx x AKQxxx Axxx where 3n will roll. The lighter
the opening bids the more room for p to have a good hand.

x to show the other two suits:)

I expect partner to have a 16 count here approximately 1 time in every thousand.

[mr1303]

There appear to be 2 distinct styles for 3 level overcalls. One is where a 3 level overcall shows a good hand, and partner is expected to use his values. The other is this OBAR style. If the later is being used, this hand is a clear pass.

[mr1303]

There appear to be 2 distinct styles for 3 level overcalls. One is where a 3 level overcall shows a good hand, and partner is expected to use his values. The other is this OBAR style. If the later is being used, this hand is a clear pass.

[PhantomSac]

Am I the only one who thinks double is penalty? Is this one of those spots that's different in MP vs imps? I can definitely see myself doubling for penalty frequently at MP but admit I cannot see myself doing so very often at imps.

[PhantomSac]

Also, Philking if you were playing with me and we had no discussion would you just take 4C as a game try in diamonds all day over 3S? I think I would spring that one on you if I had the right hand

[mikeh]

PhantomSac, on 2015-January-16, 14:32, said:

Am I the only one who thinks double is penalty? Is this one of those spots that's different in MP vs imps? I can definitely see myself doubling for penalty frequently at MP but admit I cannot see myself doing so very often at imps.

No...see my earlier post where I wrote: 'even if double were takeout'.

I know that in all my partnerships, were I to double, my next decision would be which card to lead

[PhilKing]

PhantomSac, on 2015-January-16, 14:34, said:

Also, Philking if you were playing with me and we had no discussion would you just take 4C as a game try in diamonds all day over 3S? I think I would spring that one on you if I had the right hand

Or lead directing.

[PhantomSac]

mikeh, on 2015-January-16, 15:20, said:

No...see my earlier post where I wrote: 'even if double were takeout'.

I know that in all my partnerships, were I to double, my next decision would be which card to lead

Ah I missed that.

I do like the trump lead I am not sure if I would have found it at the table.

[Fluffy]

There is a big chance that partner has 2+ spades so I am not that worried about missunderstanding.

[PhilKing]

Fluffy, on 2015-January-17, 06:56, said:

There is a big chance that partner has 2+ spades so I am not that worried about missunderstanding.

This way we get the worst of both worlds - when partner has ♠xx, he pulls and we go minus against nothing, and when he is short, he leaves it in and we concede 3♠x.