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Lead against 6Cx Playng with an expert

Poll: Your lead is (26 member(s) have cast votes)

Your lead is

  1. Club (1 votes [3.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.85%

  2. Diamond (7 votes [26.92%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.92%

  3. Heart (4 votes [15.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.38%

  4. Spade (14 votes [53.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 53.85%

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#1 User is offline   Poky 

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  Posted 2005-March-09, 07:08

IMP. We vul.

1 2 Dbl 4
5 Pa Pa 5
6 Pa Pa Dbl
All pass

Jxxxx
KQxxx
x
Qx

What do you lead and WHY?
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Posted 2005-March-09, 07:48

Double here is lightner, asking for an unusual lead (or partner has two tricks and I can sit back and relax... so I will defend like it is lghtner). So a trump lead is out, and a heart lead is out. That leaves us with a spade and a diamond. In theory, this probably ask for a diamond lead but I am looking at a singleton diamond myself. Given they ended up in clubs it is not possible partner is ruffing a diamond.

The one suit I am not going to lead is a heart. Maybe partner has diamond Ace fairly long and thinks if I lead a diamond he might be able to give me a rough. Maybe partner has a sure trump trick. like Ax, and a second round of diamonds will be a trump promotion keeping declearer from guessing correctly the doubleton queen.

Partner can't know for sure I even have a diamond, or if I ahve two diamonds, so a double based upon my getting a diamond ruff implies a lot of wishful thinking on his part. So with most partners, I might start a spade, playig partner for AKx or AQx of spades. But I think the double implies a trick in the minors as well, so either diamond ACE or club ACE (club king would not be a sure trick), so I will start with the diamond, expecting to make a diamond ruff in my hand.

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Posted 2005-March-09, 10:00

A diamond for me too, we'll set it if partner has either minor suit ace.

I would never consider a 2D bid with this hand and these colors.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2005-March-09, 12:14

Is this really a lightner double? Maybe partner bid 4 and 5 to make (especially given the vuln), and 6 is a sacrifice?

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Posted 2005-March-09, 13:06

One thing pard should not do is make a double based on the fact he expects to beat the contract because he holds 2 Aces. The double asks for an unusual lead.
That means Hearts are out. Pard probably has a few diamonds, and can infer you are short. Leading a singleton is always to be considered, so a double wouldn't be necessary. The only remaining choice is Spades. Lead a Spade.

--------- Hand Analysis -----------
What can be infered about the distribution?
Pard has at least 5 Hearts. He went to the 5 level so he may even have 6, and or the Ace. If he's void in Spades then he has 8 or 7 cards in the minors, probably more in Diamonds than Clubs. 4-4, 5-3 or 4-3, 5-2

Dummy didn't care for Diamonds, but accepted Clubs. (I assume his double ws a negative double, implying shortness in Diamonds). He cant have many hearts, (max of 3, lets assume 1-2), so he must have a several Spades, lets say :
2 2 4 5

Declarer has the same number or more than , perhaps 5-5 or 5-4. Along with 1 and 2-3.

Without the Double I couldn't be sure, but with it I think its certain that pard is void in .

Lead the Spade. I just hope that pard has a winner in a suit other than Hearts, as we may take no Hearts tricks.
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  Posted 2005-March-09, 14:12

Count card in spades.

I don't see this as a pure lead-directing double situation - partner did not show particular weakness on this auction. I view the double as a warning not to bid on and expect partner to have a quick trick in spades and a quick diamond entry.

I believe that if partner thought a heart would cash he could simply pass and had he wanted a diamond lead he could have bid 5D over 5C. I expect partner to hold on the lines of:

KQ
Jxxxxx
Axxxx
x

While a diamond lead on this hand might work, it could prove disastrous if dummy held a stiff diamond as well and could over ruff the Q of clubs.

Anyway, those are my thoughts for what they are worth.

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Posted 2005-March-09, 17:28

if he didn't want me to lead a diamond, he shouldn't have doubled... he knows how easily i'm confused...
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Posted 2005-March-09, 19:28

Following the rules, I'd say . Following the logic, I'd say ... I voted
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Posted 2005-March-10, 11:07

Scoring: IMP


Diamond = +500
Heart = +300
Spade = -1090
Club = -1090
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Posted 2005-March-10, 12:12

Strongly disagree with P double. Why double a voluntary bid slam? Disagree with most of the bidding on this hand.
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Posted 2005-March-10, 12:22

Poky, on Mar 9 2005, 08:08 AM, said:

IMP. We vul.

1 2 Dbl 4
5 Pa Pa 5
6 Pa Pa Dbl
All pass

Jxxxx
KQxxx
x
Qx

What do you lead and WHY?

I don't get it: why did I double? Why did I bid 4 and then 5? Wouldn't it have been better to bid 5 directly? And, why are youasking me to lead out of turn?
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Posted 2005-March-10, 12:41

TimG, on Mar 10 2005, 02:22 PM, said:

Poky, on Mar 9 2005, 08:08 AM, said:

IMP. We vul.

1 2 Dbl 4
5 Pa Pa 5
6 Pa Pa Dbl
All pass

Jxxxx
KQxxx
x
Qx

What do you lead and WHY?

I don't get it: why did I double? Why did I bid 4 and then 5? Wouldn't it have been better to bid 5 directly? And, why are youasking me to lead out of turn?

You bid 2 (michaels).. your partner did all the subsequent heart bidding and doubling.

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Posted 2005-March-10, 21:50

inquiry, on Mar 10 2005, 01:41 PM, said:

TimG, on Mar 10 2005, 02:22 PM, said:

Poky, on Mar 9 2005, 08:08 AM, said:

IMP. We vul.

1 2 Dbl 4
5 Pa Pa 5
6 Pa Pa Dbl
All pass

Jxxxx
KQxxx
x
Qx

What do you lead and WHY?

I don't get it: why did I double? Why did I bid 4 and then 5? Wouldn't it have been better to bid 5 directly? And, why are youasking me to lead out of turn?

You bid 2 (michaels)..

No wonder I was confused!
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