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Posted 2015-January-28, 23:14



Two or three?

What is the smallest change you would have to make to the hand to change you into the other category?
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Posted 2015-January-29, 00:27

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Posted 2015-January-29, 04:05

2♦ stinks, 3♦ is possible
1nt 15-17 ?
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Posted 2015-January-29, 05:14

Toughie. Either could work out on a particular deal. 3 is right on playing strength, but p could well put us in 3N with little play. I'd be happier with

xx
KQ
AQJTxxx
Kx

i.e. improve my suit a little and put the KQ tight where I have reasonable expectation they're pulling weight.
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Posted 2015-January-29, 07:51

Two for me. Fine suit, but low on defense, no shortness, nothing in partner's suit, and KQ tight is a minus.
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Posted 2015-January-29, 08:22

 wanoff, on 2015-January-29, 04:05, said:

2♦ stinks, 3♦ is possible
1nt 15-17 ?

This is a trifecta. Not the good kind, IMO.

Easy to choose the 2D rebid. The LTC is misleading as a guide here. Partner needs the Diamond ace or a game-force in his own right for us to have a sniff at game in NT.
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Posted 2015-January-29, 10:39

I want ♦A to have a shot at running for no losers

so

♠KQ
♥xx
♦AQJ10xxx
♣Qx

would be 3♦ for me.
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Posted 2015-January-29, 11:47

3♦ is canonical.
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Posted 2015-January-29, 12:12

Is this really an expert topic?
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Posted 2015-January-30, 05:14

 Vampyr, on 2015-January-29, 12:12, said:

Is this really an expert topic?


So far I'm 50/50 with the top players in my country, with two players whose names you would recognize taking opposite sides.

Would love to hear your thoughts (and which side you take).
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Posted 2015-January-30, 12:49

Two please.
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Posted 2015-January-30, 13:46

The credential committee granted the OP full rights to post in the "expert" forum after his result in the World Pairs final in Sanya (they had apparently ignored earlier Australian national titles as "irrelevant" ;)).

Anyway, I bid 2♦. I don't really agree with playing-strength based jump rebids when you need so much for game.
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Posted 2015-January-30, 16:48

 lmilne, on 2015-January-28, 23:14, said:



Two or three?

What is the smallest change you would have to make to the hand to change you into the other category?


2d 5d a long way off and if p cannot move over 2d odds of game are exceedingly thin. Smallest change for
3d for me change the KQ Kx into Ax Ax
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Posted 2015-January-31, 00:07

2D，一副没有快速赢墩的牌，需要同伴更多的支持才能成局。这是一副有足够赢墩的牌。也是敌方容易犯防守错误的牌。但我更愿意让同伴保持对我的叫牌有信心。
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Posted 2015-January-31, 00:52

 lhlyr123, on 2015-January-31, 00:07, said:

2D，一副没有快速赢墩的牌，需要同伴更多的支持才能成局。这是一副有足够赢墩的牌。也是敌方容易犯防守错误的牌。但我更愿意让同伴保持对我的叫牌有信心。

Too bad I can't read Chinese (or whatever it is), but I agree with the conclusion ;)
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Posted 2015-January-31, 01:27

 Free, on 2015-January-31, 00:52, said:

Too bad I can't read Chinese (or whatever it is), but I agree with the conclusion ;)


Google translates it as: A no quick tricks cards, need more support to peer into the office. This is a card has enough tricks. The enemy is easy to make a defensive mistake cards. But I prefer to let my fellow maintain bid with confidence
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Posted 2015-January-31, 04:27

And to make it a 3♦ rebid, you would have to change the club king to the ace. Then you are far more likely to make 3NT with 9 fast tricks opposite two red aces, for instance.
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Posted 2015-January-31, 04:40

 lmilne, on 2015-January-28, 23:14, said:


Two or three?
What is the smallest change you would have to make to the hand to change you into the other category?
1N (if 15-17) = 10. 3♦ = 9. 2♦ = 8. 2♣ = 6. 1♠ = 5. IMO wanoff is right that, with 7.5 playing tricks, 2♦ is a bit pathetic and deserves
  • to miss a reasonable game -- or
  • to have opponents successfully compete in a black suit.

I disagree with Vampyr: IMO, bidding problems are usually appreciated by both beginners and experts; it's probably wise to have a Beginner forum for the few posters capable of realistic self-assessment; but otherwise it would be easier to navigate orthogonal categories that include Bidding problems, Play problems, and System discussion.
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Posted 2015-January-31, 06:07

 PhilKing, on 2015-January-31, 04:27, said:

And to make it a 3♦ rebid, you would have to change the club king to the ace. Then you are far more likely to make 3NT with 9 fast tricks opposite two red aces, for instance.


Lack of aces is probably the only reason to be conservative about this hand. While it might work out just fine, I know so little about partner's hand that I'm not going to risk making what, by most standards, is an underbid.

Still, it's a very nice hand for a sim.
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Posted 2015-January-31, 06:35

The scale of Nigel keeps surprising me, this time it looks like a Gauss curve with the top at 8...
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