BBO Discussion Forums: nobody vul MPs... - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

nobody vul MPs...

#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

  • World International Master without a clue
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 17,404
  • Joined: 2003-November-13
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:madrid

Posted 2015-March-19, 02:56



Natural overcalls, and penalty double. What is the best action?

Does anyone have some statistics for similar situations at high level?

You can see the full hand here: http://www.bridgegod...id=486&setid=20
0

#2 User is online   Cyberyeti 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 14,204
  • Joined: 2009-July-13
  • Location:England

Posted 2015-March-19, 03:40

This is a hand that's much easier to bid to the right spot if your NT range is such that don't open 1N.
0

#3 User is offline   Zelandakh 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,696
  • Joined: 2006-May-18
  • Gender:Not Telling

Posted 2015-March-19, 06:15

You need to change the displayed hand to be South, Gonzalo.
(-: Zel :-)
1

#4 User is offline   the_clown 

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 645
  • Joined: 2010-December-02

Posted 2015-March-23, 07:07

I would pass now and compete in diamonds if they stop in 2M.
0

#5 User is offline   Phil 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,092
  • Joined: 2008-December-11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:North Texas, USA
  • Interests:Mountain Biking

Posted 2015-March-23, 11:37

View Postthe_clown, on 2015-March-23, 07:07, said:

I would pass now and compete in diamonds if they stop in 2M.


This is the standard strategy with a solid suit and I don't have any reason to feel its incorrect.

Assuming the points around the table are 16-12-6-6, we rate to take 8 tricks versus 1N, for +100, but taking nine tricks in diamonds seems very uncertain. OTOH, -50 or -100 versus them making 2M is also a plus position for us.

If we had a way to bid a natural 2, should we? I think thats dubious, since now they might be able to find their 4-4 fit which wasn't going to happen if we passed.
Hi y'all!

Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
0

#6 User is offline   mikeh 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 13,024
  • Joined: 2005-June-15
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Canada
  • Interests:Bridge, golf, wine (red), cooking, reading eclectically but insatiably, travelling, making bad posts.

Posted 2015-March-23, 16:30

I think that if we were going to bid, I'd want to bid 3 rather than 2, even if the latter were available to me, which it usually isn't.

I don't want LHO to be able to bid a non-forcing 2M or to be able to distinguish between invitational or forcing major suit bid, so a 2 level overcall just doesn't do enough to disrupt them. Basically all it does is remove stayman and it doesn't even really do that if they play negative doubles.

However, with all this defence against 1N, I opt to pass for now.
'one of the great markers of the advance of human kindness is the howls you will hear from the Men of God' Johann Hari
0

#7 User is offline   P_Marlowe 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,249
  • Joined: 2005-March-18
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2015-March-26, 10:21

Pass, maybe they will end up in 1NT.
I will get in later, if they try to play 2M.
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
0

#8 User is offline   ggwhiz 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,952
  • Joined: 2008-June-23
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2015-March-27, 08:51

I would double with my partnership understanding that it is (usually) a one-suiter that prefers to defend.

If partner has to pull, they bid 2 as it most definitely has a landing spot available. Knowing the nature of the "penalty" double and continuations being played would seem to be an important consideration.
When a deaf person goes to court is it still called a hearing?
What is baby oil made of?
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users