Which, if any, of the bridge-playing computer applications out there would you all recommend for some non-BBO practice?
I love BBO, but I like the idea of having hands where I can think and reason things through slowly while I'm learning... The cheap bots on BBO are a little random in the cardplay for my liking, and the better bots are a little too steep for the amount of time/days I want to play.
Anyone have any thoughts on the varied programs out there for practice?
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Bridge on your home computer
#2
Posted 2015-July-27, 07:16
"Jack" is widely considered to be the best one around.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
#3
Posted 2015-August-02, 11:12
If you want free the best is Wbridge. It is French but it is pretty much translated. Its only drawback is no fancy systems such as precision if you play one of those. Wbridge has won the world computer champs at least 3 times and is very nearly as good as jack. It isn't as nice or user friendly as jack. It also has a bridge club associated with it where you can play match points with 3 computer opps scored against the other humans doing the same. It does have a few annoying things like it insists on French stayman and it didn't understand RKCB for queens last time I tried it. getting 60% regularly in this event makes you a good player.
The Computer World championship is in August 2015. Jack isn't currently the world champion but it didn't play in the last one. I expect it will probably win however. Jack plays most things you will want it to and is more user friendly than the other top programs.
I quite like qplus which tends to come approximately 4th and has a more human style and you can set up simulations more easily than the others. It will play most systems and conventions too.
It also has enter what your bid means feature which tells the opps what your bid means. This is less good than it sounds in that the opps often ignore this knowledge or have no way to bid differently as a result of knowing it anyway, but if you play something complicated it will at least tend to avoid playing in your suit with this.
I think the current world champion is Shark which I had a bit of a look at and it didn't have many options for systems and things.
The Computer World championship is in August 2015. Jack isn't currently the world champion but it didn't play in the last one. I expect it will probably win however. Jack plays most things you will want it to and is more user friendly than the other top programs.
I quite like qplus which tends to come approximately 4th and has a more human style and you can set up simulations more easily than the others. It will play most systems and conventions too.
It also has enter what your bid means feature which tells the opps what your bid means. This is less good than it sounds in that the opps often ignore this knowledge or have no way to bid differently as a result of knowing it anyway, but if you play something complicated it will at least tend to avoid playing in your suit with this.
I think the current world champion is Shark which I had a bit of a look at and it didn't have many options for systems and things.
#4
Posted 2015-August-02, 11:48
etha, on 2015-August-02, 11:12, said:
I quite like qplus which tends to come approximately 4th and has a more human style and you can set up simulations more easily than the others.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
#5
Posted 2015-August-03, 03:36
1eyedjack, on 2015-August-02, 11:48, said:
Purely out of curiosity, how many contestants does this event attract?
There are only 8 this year.
http://www.allevybri...esults2015.html
#6
Posted 2015-August-03, 14:11
Tell you what, if you really want a hoot, and have an android phone or tablet, you can try out the free game Bridge_3D by Olina.com
https://play.google....om.Olina.BRIDGE
You will be uninstalling it pretty rapidly after trying it out, but you HAVE to try it out just once.
Hint: make sure you have the volume set to max
Oh, and don't expect to see it in the computer world championships any time soon.
https://play.google....om.Olina.BRIDGE
You will be uninstalling it pretty rapidly after trying it out, but you HAVE to try it out just once.
Hint: make sure you have the volume set to max
Oh, and don't expect to see it in the computer world championships any time soon.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
#7
Posted 2015-August-04, 21:47
Sorry for the delay in replying, everybody. Thanks for your comments/posts.
Wound up buying Jack, and currently working my way up the flights (in challenge mode) as outlined earlier.
It's certainly a rather spartan bit of software, and there are definitely a couple oddities I wish were different - particular those around reviewing a hand just played. But, for all the major boxes I had ticked, it's been a fine purchase.
Thanks for the tips, everyone.
Wound up buying Jack, and currently working my way up the flights (in challenge mode) as outlined earlier.
It's certainly a rather spartan bit of software, and there are definitely a couple oddities I wish were different - particular those around reviewing a hand just played. But, for all the major boxes I had ticked, it's been a fine purchase.
Thanks for the tips, everyone.
#8
Posted 2015-August-05, 02:19
HeavyDluxe, on 2015-August-04, 21:47, said:
Sorry for the delay in replying, everybody. Thanks for your comments/posts.
Wound up buying Jack, and currently working my way up the flights (in challenge mode) as outlined earlier.
It's certainly a rather spartan bit of software, and there are definitely a couple oddities I wish were different - particular those around reviewing a hand just played. But, for all the major boxes I had ticked, it's been a fine purchase.
Thanks for the tips, everyone.
Wound up buying Jack, and currently working my way up the flights (in challenge mode) as outlined earlier.
It's certainly a rather spartan bit of software, and there are definitely a couple oddities I wish were different - particular those around reviewing a hand just played. But, for all the major boxes I had ticked, it's been a fine purchase.
Thanks for the tips, everyone.
You can save the deals as a PBN and review them later or how you want if that helps. I suspect you wouldn't have liked the others much if you think Jack is "Spartan". Glad to have been of some help.
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