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MPs. With an intermediate partner. Before playing you've agreed that any pre-empts (weak 2s or 3s) must include 3 of the top 5 honours. No Drury or similar. Opponents are vulnerable, you're not. Partner deals and passes, as does RHO: what do you bid?
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Posted 2017-October-06, 11:38
MPs. With an intermediate partner. Before playing you've agreed that any pre-empts (weak 2s or 3s) must include 3 of the top 5 honours. No Drury or similar. Opponents are vulnerable, you're not. Partner deals and passes, as does RHO: what do you bid?
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Posted 2017-October-06, 12:34
I don't see how anything besides 1♥ is even under contemplation.
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Posted 2017-October-06, 19:08
pass ok, 1 ♣ - 1 ♦ - 1 ♥ ok. 1 ♥ - 2 ♦ - ??? 2♥ not ok. so pass or 1 ♣ more so pass
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Posted 2017-October-06, 19:40
This hand can support 3 suits, just pass and support partner. Or will likely have a chance to act. no rush
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Posted 2017-October-07, 05:18
1♥ seems to be the best option. Why would you ever consider passing this hand? It's 20/20 deal at best, moreover opponents probably have strength advantage. We have great shape and our partner is a passed hand. If we pass our partner won't start the bidding either and we will never make a sound during the bidding. If our LHO has like 18 HCP and RHO is 9-10 HCP it would be much harder for them to bid to the right contract with our interference.
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Posted 2017-October-07, 06:46
TylerE, on 2017-October-06, 12:34, said:
I don't see how anything besides 1♥ is even under contemplation.
I agree 100%. Third hand, white vs red, and 5/5 distribution. No way would I pass.
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Posted 2017-October-07, 07:24
The_Badger, on 2017-October-06, 11:38, said:
MPs. With an intermediate partner. Before playing you've agreed that any pre-empts (weak 2s or 3s) must include 3 of the top 5 honours. No Drury or similar. Opponents are vulnerable, you're not. Partner deals and passes, as does RHO: what do you bid?
Assuming you open 1♥ on this hand,what would be your next action(if any) if partner
responds 2♦? In answer to the lead post,I would pass this hand and await developments.
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Posted 2017-October-07, 10:54
2♥
Almost too good but 3rd in hand white v red, they might make game, we wont.
Lets make it difficult
All rules should be ignored in this position
Almost too good but 3rd in hand white v red, they might make game, we wont.
Lets make it difficult
All rules should be ignored in this position
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Posted 2017-October-07, 12:02
LBengtsson, on 2017-October-06, 19:08, said:
pass ok, 1 ♣ - 1 ♦ - 1 ♥ ok. 1 ♥ - 2 ♦ - ??? 2♥ not ok. so pass or 1 ♣ more so pass
1 ♣ - 1NT not so great.
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Posted 2017-October-07, 13:19
gordontd, on 2017-October-07, 12:02, said:
1 ♣ - 1NT not so great.
This is systems dependent. In Acol, 1C, 1NT shows club support!
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Posted 2017-October-07, 14:03
Weak 2♥ certainly is attractive at this vuln, 3rd hand, MP --- lets opps guess instead.....
Immediately tells pd we are going nowhere unless ♥ support.
Opening 1♥ and getting 2♦ from pd may be problematic as others pointed out.
3/5 top-honours seems particularly silly in 3rd hand...
Immediately tells pd we are going nowhere unless ♥ support.
Opening 1♥ and getting 2♦ from pd may be problematic as others pointed out.
3/5 top-honours seems particularly silly in 3rd hand...
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Posted 2017-October-07, 15:36
PhilG007, on 2017-October-07, 07:24, said:
Assuming you open 1♥ on this hand,what would be your next action(if any) if partner
responds 2♦? In answer to the lead post,I would pass this hand and await developments.
responds 2♦? In answer to the lead post,I would pass this hand and await developments.
Depends on methods, 2♦ barely exists for us and where it does, partner will have at least 2 hearts so I can bid 2♥ quite happily.
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Posted 2017-October-07, 17:34
If I'm planning on running away after the first bad result, I guess 1H kind of makes sense, but opening 9HCP with an intermediate partner is not going to be good for the partnership. Besides, light openings are supposed to be able to pass any response, and this does not qualify. 1H is a semi-psyche.
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Posted 2017-October-07, 18:46
PhilG007, on 2017-October-07, 07:24, said:
Assuming you open 1♥ on this hand,what would be your next action(if any) if partner
responds 2♦? In answer to the lead post,I would pass this hand and await developments.
responds 2♦? In answer to the lead post,I would pass this hand and await developments.
A big part of why I insist of Drury is to keep partner from showing a minor here.
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Posted 2017-October-07, 18:47
Malachi, on 2017-October-07, 17:34, said:
If I'm planning on running away after the first bad result, I guess 1H kind of makes sense, but opening 9HCP with an intermediate partner is not going to be good for the partnership. Besides, light openings are supposed to be able to pass any response, and this does not qualify. 1H is a semi-psyche.
I don't think it's a LIGHT opener. It's 5-5 with a void. Hell, this is a 1st seat opener for me playing with anyone under the age of 80.
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Posted 2017-October-08, 02:49
TylerE, on 2017-October-07, 18:47, said:
I don't think it's a LIGHT opener. It's 5-5 with a void. Hell, this is a 1st seat opener for me playing with anyone under the age of 80.
Agreed K&R gives 12.1, I would open this in first seat
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Posted 2017-October-08, 04:37
1Heart.I do want my partner to lead Hearts if LHO declares in NT.
If my partner bids 2 Diamonds,I shall rebid 2 Heart, If RHO passes or doubles.( penalty).I shall bid an easy 2/3 club if LHO bids1Spade or 2 Diamonds and partner doubles( negative).
If my partner bids 2 Diamonds,I shall rebid 2 Heart, If RHO passes or doubles.( penalty).I shall bid an easy 2/3 club if LHO bids1Spade or 2 Diamonds and partner doubles( negative).
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Posted 2017-October-08, 06:41
msjennifer, on 2017-October-08, 04:37, said:
1Heart.I do want my partner to lead Hearts if LHO declares in NT.
If my partner bids 2 Diamonds,I shall rebid 2 Heart, If RHO passes or doubles.( penalty).I shall bid an easy 2/3 club if LHO bids1Spade or 2 Diamonds and partner doubles( negative).
If my partner bids 2 Diamonds,I shall rebid 2 Heart, If RHO passes or doubles.( penalty).I shall bid an easy 2/3 club if LHO bids1Spade or 2 Diamonds and partner doubles( negative).
Doesn't a rebid of 2♥ promise a 6+ suit(?) I only see 5
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Posted 2017-October-08, 07:54
PhilG007, on 2017-October-08, 06:41, said:
Doesn't a rebid of 2♥ promise a 6+ suit(?) I only see 5
No. 2H would be the normal rebid with something like AQx KJTxx x QJxx.
edit: I wouldn't open the OP hand, it just isn't that good a hand unless you find a fit, and I'm not desperate for a heart lead.
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Posted 2017-October-08, 09:10
PhilG007, on 2017-October-08, 06:41, said:
Doesn't a rebid of 2♥ promise a 6+ suit(?) I only see 5
As Manudude says, OP is in the UK so presume Acol, 2/1 does not promise another bid so 2♥ is default weak bid on any hand that can't do more, 4513/3514/4522 would be typical.