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#1 User is offline   jgitnick 

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Posted 2020-April-02, 12:41

When playing with Robots it's not possible to claim after losing a trick even though the claim button is highlighted. In a regular game you can claim whether you won the last trick or not. Also, why can't Robots claim?
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Posted 2020-April-02, 23:50

View Postjgitnick, on 2020-April-02, 12:41, said:

When playing with Robots it's not possible to claim after losing a trick even though the claim button is highlighted. In a regular game you can claim whether you won the last trick or not. Also, why can't Robots claim?


Maybe because the robot cannot call the director is the claim is contested.
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Posted 2020-April-03, 08:12

View Postjgitnick, on 2020-April-02, 12:41, said:

When playing with Robots it's not possible to claim after losing a trick even though the claim button is highlighted. In a regular game you can claim whether you won the last trick or not. Also, why can't Robots claim?

These are limitations in the GIB software that we acquired, and it has never been high enough priority to fix them.

The human can only claim a specific number of tricks when you're leading. If you're following to a trick, your only option is to concede all the rest.

That's why we added a checkbox to the concede dialogue, because players were frequently conceding the rest when they meant to claim all the rest.

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Posted 2021-February-22, 09:40

View Postbarmar, on 2020-April-03, 08:12, said:

These are limitations in the GIB software that we acquired, and it has never been high enough priority to fix them.

The human can only claim a specific number of tricks when you're leading. If you're following to a trick, your only option is to concede all the rest.

That's why we added a checkbox to the concede dialogue, because players were frequently conceding the rest when they meant to claim all the rest.


Hello,
I still don't understand why robots cannot claim in the game. If there is another discussion page about this topic, I can write to there but rather than opening a new headline for this issue, I just wanted to ask from here. I believe that the app will be much more efficient if robots can claim. Thank you in advance.

Best,
Ümit
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Posted 2021-February-23, 09:56

It's just the way the GIB software was written when we acquired it.

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Posted 2021-February-23, 16:37

View Postbarmar, on 2021-February-23, 09:56, said:

It's just the way the GIB software was written when we acquired it.

You have been making other changes. Change this!
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Posted 2021-February-24, 14:13

View Post0 carbon, on 2021-February-23, 16:37, said:

You have been making other changes. Change this!


I would settle for being able to quickly and clearly claim things like "I concede all the tricks (but 1)"
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Posted 2021-February-24, 16:27

View Postbarmar, on 2021-February-23, 09:56, said:

It's just the way the GIB software was written when we acquired it.

Translation: We don't care enough to fix it.
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Posted 2021-February-25, 10:12

View Post0 carbon, on 2021-February-23, 16:37, said:

You have been making other changes. Change this!

Most of our robot changes have been to the bidding database. We have made very few changes to the GIB application itself. And this seems like it would be complicated, otherwise Ginsberg probably would have done it himself.

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Posted 2021-February-26, 16:48

Why not hire Ginsberg? Is he available?
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Posted 2021-March-12, 20:07

View Post0 carbon, on 2021-February-26, 16:48, said:

Why not hire Ginsberg? Is he available?

It's been at least 5 years since we've contacted him about anything. I think it was just to ask him about the reasoning behind some design decision.

He's effectively out of the GIB business.

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Posted 2021-March-16, 19:07

View Postbarmar, on 2021-March-12, 20:07, said:

It's been at least 5 years since we've contacted him about anything. I think it was just to ask him about the reasoning behind some design decision.

He's effectively out of the GIB business.


So, maybe with enough $, you can lure him back? Try it!
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