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What do you call with this distributional hand?

#21 User is offline   sotelow 

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Posted 2022-August-09, 10:00

View PostAL78, on 2022-August-06, 09:59, said:

MPs, game all. My RHO held this hand:

KQ874
3
AQJT53
4

My partner (their RHO) opens 1NT 15-17. What would you do here if you do not have a two suited overcall to show these two suits?

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Posted 2022-August-09, 10:52

View PostAL78, on 2022-August-06, 09:59, said:

MPs, game all. My RHO held this hand:

KQ874
3
AQJT53
4

My partner (their RHO) opens 1NT 15-17. What would you do here if you do not have a two suited overcall to show these two suits?


I simply bid 2!D if I do not have a 2 suited bid available. I also expect the auction not to die there, though it might. I am intending on bidding spades later
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Posted 2022-August-09, 12:08

In the very olden days, 2NT overcall shows any 2 suiter. Partner assumes minors. Overcaller would 'correct', pass, or raise.
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Posted 2022-August-09, 15:55

View Postmikeh, on 2022-August-09, 09:26, said:

If, for some strange reason, ...


Fully agreed. With one additional reason, start with diamonds and they bid hearts you can introduce spades at a lower level than when you start with spades and you have to introduce diamonds over a heart bid.
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Posted 2022-August-09, 15:56

EZ peazy - you bid your 2!D. then the fun starts - on the next round depending on who you play, what you hear, & how you feel about "walking the dog". You are worth game, but how about 2!S-3!S - 4!S?
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Posted 2022-August-09, 15:56

EZ peazy - you bid your 2!D. then the fun starts - on the next round depending on who you play, what you hear, & how you feel about "walking the dog". You are worth game, but how about 2!S-3!S - 4!S?
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Posted 2022-August-09, 15:56

EZ peazy - you bid your 2!D. then the fun starts - on the next round depending on who you play, what you hear, & how you feel about "walking the dog". You are worth game, but how about 2!S-3!S - 4!S?
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Posted 2022-August-09, 15:56

EZ peazy - you bid your 2!D. then the fun starts - on the next round depending on who you play, what you hear, & how you feel about "walking the dog". You are worth game, but how about 2!S-3!S - 4!S?
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Posted 2022-August-09, 15:56

EZ peazy - you bid your 2!D. then the fun starts - on the next round depending on who you play, what you hear, & how you feel about "walking the dog". You are worth game, but how about 2!S-3!S - 4!S?
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Posted 2022-August-09, 16:28

View PostAL78, on 2022-August-06, 09:59, said:

MPs, game all. My RHO held this hand:

KQ874
3
AQJT53
4

My partner (their RHO) opens 1NT 15-17. What would you do here if you do not have a two suited overcall to show these two suits?

I would bid 2D showing 10+pts and 4D looking for a possible M or D fit.
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Posted 2022-August-09, 16:57

Unsurprisingly a lot of people advocating bidding diamonds followed by spades. My RHO didn't know what to do and ended up doing nothing:



Partner made nine tricks for 12/14 MPs. One EW pair was in 3, the rest were in some number of spades making nine or ten tricks. The only NS pair we didn't beat was the pair who found a double of 4 and took it one off.

This illustrates the randomness of club duplicate, at least in my bridge world.
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Posted 2022-August-11, 21:20

HELLO is a pretty good defense to 1NT. It's a descendant of Cappelletti/Hamilton/Helms/Pottage developed by Jerry Helms and his partners. There's a good booklet on it by Jerry which, last I checked, is available from Baron-Barclay.
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Posted 2022-August-11, 21:22

"I don't know what to do, so I pass" is the bane of beginner bridge.
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Posted 2022-August-12, 10:13

View Postblackshoe, on 2022-August-11, 21:22, said:

"I don't know what to do, so I pass" is the bane of beginner bridge.

Isn’t it the walrus of V. Mollo who passed a balanced 16 count because to please a new partner, he had agreed to play weak NT?
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Posted 2022-August-13, 05:51

I'd go and learn a method to make two-suited overcalls.
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