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Do you accept the quantitative invitation?

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Posted Yesterday, 15:04

First time in the club for a while, playing with a fellow Kiwi, we had a top 59% game.
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Posted Yesterday, 15:46

I'd Pass
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Posted Yesterday, 18:21

Close. I’d bid with the diamond 10. Without it, I pass
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Posted Today, 04:22

If you can be sure partner will always describe his hand accurately before making a quantitative invite with non 4333 hands without a 4 card major, so you know how to evaluate your own hand, then he is 4333 without a 4 card major and this is a pass.

If you aren't sure it is impossible to decide as he might well have a source of tricks like a 5 card minor that makes 6 cold, in which case pass and 6NT are equally bad gambles.
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Posted Today, 04:38

View PostHuibertus, on 2025-August-05, 04:22, said:

If you can be sure partner will always describe his hand accurately before making a quantitative invite with non 4333 hands without a 4 card major, so you know how to evaluate your own hand, then he is 4333 without a 4 card major and this is a pass.

If you aren't sure it is impossible to decide as he might well have a source of tricks like a 5 card minor that makes 6 cold, in which case pass and 6NT are equally bad gambles.


I have the ability to put the cube back to partner so I bid 5N to show a decent but not stellar 16 and let partner look at his shape and intermediates and decide (yes he can have 5m).

If you put a gun to my head and said 4 or 6, I'd bid 6.
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Posted Today, 08:12

I think it's a clear accept. We have 16, which already puts our hand at above average, with most 15-17 NT's being 15. 3 Aces can hardly be a bad thing. Sure, Qx clubs isn't ideal, but may well fill in partners suit. Not saying it's guaranteed to make, but I do think it's pretty clear to bid 6N here.
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