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Big 6-5

Poll: Your call? (41 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call?

  1. 2C (5 votes [12.20%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.20%

  2. 3C (19 votes [46.34%])

    Percentage of vote: 46.34%

  3. 4C (Undiscussed) (1 votes [2.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.44%

  4. 4H (10 votes [24.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.39%

  5. Other (3 votes [7.32%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.32%

  6. 2H (1 votes [2.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.44%

  7. 3H (added out of order to prevent changing results) (2 votes [4.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.88%

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#1 User is offline   pclayton 

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Posted 2005-September-12, 12:24

IMPs - short matches you pick up:

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You open 1♥, LHO doubles. Pard bids 1♠ (transfer to 1N, showing 6 to a poor 10). He doesn't deny 4♠, but he won't have 4 good ones. RHO passes.

Note: Obviously you aren't compelled to accept the transfer, so don't get all confused about the structure. If you can't conceptualize the problem, just pretend pard bid 1N over the x.

(Ben / Gerardo - if you want to add 2 and 3 hearts to the poll, please do so)
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Posted 2005-September-12, 12:26

What did RHO bid?
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Posted 2005-September-12, 12:30

ADDED...I did vote considering a 1♥ opening bid... but... Just open 3!C MisIry.. hehehehe...
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Posted 2005-September-12, 12:30

SoTired, on Sep 12 2005, 10:26 AM, said:

What did RHO bid?

RHO passes (I edited the original post).
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Posted 2005-September-12, 12:31

4♣ sounds appealing.
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Posted 2005-September-12, 12:45

4H. seems practical.
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Posted 2005-September-12, 12:45

Nice problem.

3C and 3H are both bad.

I bid 3H. I play 3C as absolute GF, which may be old fashioned.

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Posted 2005-September-12, 12:47

Since RHO passed, you have to bid over pard's 1S, right? Contemplating anything but 2H over an erstwhile 1NT response seems to be wrong-headed to me...... <_<
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Posted 2005-September-12, 12:51

really? When I can make game opposite xxx xx xxxxx Kxx it seems wrongheaded to me to NOT bid a game. The only question in my mind is whether I should try for slam or not! It seems like the spade suit is missing, so I think there are tactical advantages to blasting and giving up on slam. I really don't understand not bidding at least game though.
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Posted 2005-September-12, 12:52

Since the 1S was alerted (hopefully) RHO doesn't have 5S and 8 hcp or 4S with 9+ hcp, and LHO rates to have 4S and 4C and 4D (in a perfect world which is usually what occurs when I am South). <_<

So pard is balanced and RHO may have a H stack (albeit in front of you) so they force with S and when you run out of trump they start cashing Diamonds or what?
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Posted 2005-September-12, 12:54

Jlall, on Sep 12 2005, 01:51 PM, said:

really? When I can make game opposite xxx xx xxxxx Kxx it seems wrongheaded to me to NOT bid a game. The only question in my mind is whether I should try for slam or not! It seems like the spade suit is missing, so I think there are tactical advantages to blasting and giving up on slam. I really don't understand not bidding at least game though.

He did bid 1NT 6-10, with the right hand he will carry on, will he not? Perhaps 2H IS conservative (read chickensh#t) but they have spades and the bidding is unlikely to go 2H-p-p-p....... <_<
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Posted 2005-September-12, 12:56

I agree that it is unlikely 2H will get passed out, but what do you accomplish then by having only bid 2H if you will later bid game? I don't see why partner would see any reason to bid on with a random 6-9 point hand when that is what he has already shown.
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Posted 2005-September-12, 13:06

Besides, my pards always have Jxxx, xx, KQxx, xxx on this sequence (honest! it happens all the time.... <_< )
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Posted 2005-September-12, 13:10

Familiar with Murphy's Law? He was a bridge player or at least should have been. I happily accept that the hand has tons of upside potential and that when you compete with C over their S bid(s) pard will be well placed to act.
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Posted 2005-September-12, 13:12

Al_U_Card, on Sep 12 2005, 02:10 PM, said:

Familiar with Murphy's Law?

Yep, but I do not apply it when it comes to game bidding <_<
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Posted 2005-September-12, 13:14

inquiry, on Sep 12 2005, 01:30 PM, said:

ADDED...I did vote considering a 1♥ opening bid... but...  Just open 3!C MisIry.. hehehehe...

See higher up for the hand I proposed for pard. When you complete the description with 3H over 3D (that is correct, is it not?) can (should) he pass with that hand?
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Posted 2005-September-12, 13:57

I voted 4H, the only other bid that I considered was 3C. Even though you won't always make it, 4H seems practical and unrevealing.

I think that 3H is too conservative, won't comment on 2H.


BTW, Doesn't Murphy's law state that once something goes wrong, you should expect more things to turn against you? So far things have gone pretty well, we picked up a good and interesting hand and partner has shown a balanced hand without spade length/strength.. what more can we expect?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2005-September-12, 14:01

Al_U_Card, on Sep 12 2005, 02:06 PM, said:

Besides, my pards always have Jxxx, xx, KQxx, xxx on this sequence (honest! it happens all the time.... <_< )

1) Surely Phil's partner can count more intelligently, this is not even a 6-count.

2) You might make game anyway.

3) Expecting the worst is bad bridge. Expect the most likely.
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Posted 2005-September-12, 14:02

Opps have a 9+ spade fit that they've not bid yet. Although I am suspicious hearts are breaking badly and with bad luck 4HX could be -800. Even so, then 4S is likely making.

This is a 4-loser hand with a self-sufficent suit. 5C needs 2 cover cards. Why give opps an easy chance to find their spade fit?

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  Posted 2005-September-12, 14:03

I bid 3♣ because that's what I've got.

I'm an optimist, and still have slam ambitions. 4♥ cuts those out (though it's the only other bid I'd consider).
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