[sceptic]

Scoring: IMP

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West North East South

 -     -     2♥    Dbl
 Pass  Pass  Pass  

Would you open this a weak 2 hearts, we are non Vuln they are Vuln?

Would you pass the x ?

[Walddk]

1. No.
2. No.

1. The suit quality is rotten, and I have one heart less than I should have. It's definitely not my style to open a weak 2 with that.

2. Double is for take-out, so why wouldn't I take it out?

Roland

[Gerben42]

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Would you open this a weak 2 hearts, we are non Vuln they are Vuln?

Wrong question. Would your partner think you open this a weak 2? At this vuln. there is no such thing as minimum strength, just be on the same wavelength with pd.

2nd question: Firm believer in taking out partner's take out double. I'm not sitting for this one.

[joker_gib]

1. No, non existent suit of 5 cards !
2. No, I have nothing and my ♥ are misplaced !

Alain

[G_R__E_G]

I wouldn't. I'm an aggressive bidder - but not that aggressive. Make that ♦T the ♥T and I would at that vulnerability.

[Winstonm]

No. IMO, this is more of a matchpoint tactic, trying to steal a board where the result is either a top or a bottom. At IMPs the risk verses gain is out of whack.

Yes. Having made this bid, I assume partner knows what kind of hand I may hold so I have to live with the consequences and hope we've kept them from slam.

[pigpenz]

NO! whats the point.
I want partner to be able to make an intelligent deciscion with points if and if they dont come into the auction.

If I was playing EHAA yes, i would open two

if not playing lebensol i would bid 2NT

[P_Marlowe]

1) No, terrible 5 card suit, well if you dare to call this suit
2) West should Pass, afterall he can assume a 8 card fit
North should bid 2 NT, lebensohl, intending to bid 3S,
to show invitational vaules

Personnaly I would bid 2NT with the South hand.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Chamaco]

sceptic, on Oct 6 2005, 01:49 PM, said:

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Would you open this a weak 2 hearts, we are non Vuln they are Vuln?

This depends on pship styles.
Some like to preempt with bad suits because they can increase the frequency of the bid.
Personaly I would not try this vs an unpassed pard

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Would you pass the x ?

No.
To try to make this clearer:
most times doubles with a good opener.
A good opener promises about 2.5 defensive tricks.

Here , especially sitting under the preemptor, we have no reason to expect to provide more than 2/3 tricks.
Sure, we may expect to set the contract by 1 trick, but it will be very close, and doubling them into game is not a good strategy.

As I have spades support, I'll bid my spades

[Trpltrbl]

1 ) No, never in first or second seat. In 3rd seat everything is allowed.

2 ) 2♠, pd is asking me to Take Out, so I will do so. But I will not count my ♥Q for now.

GBB

[mikeh]

Some 10 years ago, while forming a new (and to become my all time best partnership) I raised my partner's favourable vulnerability 1st seat 2♥ bid to 3♥ on 10x. After a tortuous auction the opps rested in 4♠ and partner led his 5th best ♥... the 2. Dummy's ♥ were AKQxx and declarer followed.

After that, we agreed that we would adopt a slightly more rational weak two style.

So I have to say that I would NOT open 2♥.

And I would definitely NOT pass the double as North, even if I knew that the opps style permitted this kind of weak 2.

[inquiry]

No. No. No.

[Fluffy]

inquiry, on Oct 6 2005, 05:28 PM, said:

No. No. No.

couldn't say it clearer