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#1 User is offline   Walddk 

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Posted 2006-August-29, 15:24

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Team game. You open 1, double to your left, partner redoubles and RHO bids 2. Eventually, you end up in 4.

West leads a small-ish club to the jack and queen, and you ruff. At trick 2 you correctly lead a low spade from hand, and LHO wins his king (East following with the 8). West continues with a club, you try the king, but East produces the ace. You must ruff again.

1. How do you envisage the EW hands?

2. How do you proceed from here?

This is meant to be for beginners/intermediates, so if your skill level is higher, please use hidden text.

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Posted 2006-August-29, 19:11

edit: ups mistake by reading & thinking
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Posted 2006-August-29, 19:38

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Posted 2006-August-30, 00:25

WEST

SPADES HEARTS DIAMONDS CLUBS

kx Axxx Axxx xxx

EAST

SPADES HEARTS DIAMONDS CLUBS

xxx xxx void AQxxxxx

This is sort of how I see the hands,

I think you need to concentrate on controling the trumps as they may have a ruff somewehere especially when they take one of the aces to find it, we have a void, why should opps not have a singleton at least
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Posted 2006-August-30, 01:17

sceptic, on Aug 30 2006, 08:25 AM, said:

WEST

SPADES    HEARTS    DIAMONDS  CLUBS

kx            Axxx        Axxx          xxx

EAST

SPADES    HEARTS    DIAMONDS  CLUBS

xxx          xxx              void        AQxxxxx

This is sort of how I see the hands,

I think you need to concentrate on controling the trumps as they may have a ruff somewehere especially when they take one of the aces to find it, we have a void, why should opps not have a singleton at least

I don't think that this is the layout, Wayne. If East really has AQxxxxx in clubs, he would surely have bid more than 2 over the redouble. That is not a strong bid. It just shows many clubs opposite what could by 3 (sometimes even 2 if West decided to double on a 2-4-5-2 or 2-5-4-2 shape).

So with 6+ clubs headed by AQ, East should bid at least 3. It makes it a little more difficult for the opponents if you take the 2-level away from them.

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Posted 2006-August-30, 08:10

This seems to be difficult for many readers, so let me give a little help. Assume that trumps are 3-2 or 2-3, because they must be in order for you to have a chance.

As a consequence, you can pull the outstanding trumps if you want to, but do you? Is there a danger looming?

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Posted 2006-August-30, 10:15

As everyone's keeping quiet....
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p.s. I'm not totally certain the spade out of hand at trick 2 was correct. We can discuss this later, if you like...
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  Posted 2006-August-31, 12:59

Hi,
I am Adi (adibichea) BIL member, hope to resolve this problem.

1.

W hand, aprox. distribution .. the points are correct
Kx
Axxx
Axx
xxxx
11HCP, that shows DBL

E hand, aprox distribution and points
xxx
xxx
x
AQxxxx
6HCP, showd in 3rd round. If E have 7's with 6HCP, i am sure he bid 3 or even more.

2. after 3rd round, i play a small to J to test if distribution is 2-3 or 3-2. if distribution is 4-1 or 1-4 i have no chance to make the contract. And i can't make the contract if is 5-5 even if trump are 3-2.
Supose trump stay 3-2 or 2-3, and 4-6, or whateva, but not 5-5
After i win with J, i play a small to K to promote my , now only losers is 1, 1 and 1. I don't play trump from my hand. exception: ruff.

If W win with A and play another (final club) I ruff it, and now play the to QJ of dummy hand (or finesse if E have void in ) ... and play diamond's to force E or W to ruff(final opposite trump). If E ruff the , he play .. now ruff club and play another or . and now the contract is done.

I am thinking correctly?

Regards, AdiBichea .. and intermediate player.
Regards, Adi Bichea [BIL member]
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