[CSGibson]

Scoring: IMP

(1♥)-2♣-(2♥)-3♦;
(3♥)-P-(P)-4♣;
(4♥)-P-(P)-5♣;
(X)-all pass

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Playing in an online pick-up partnership, so no firm agreements on the auction. King of clubs is offsides.

[hanp]

Dislike 2C and dislike south's general approach to the hand.

[Winstonm]

Culbertson?

[the hog]

hanp, on May 17 2009, 06:01 AM, said:

Dislike 2C and dislike south's general approach to the hand.

Agree with this. 2C is a bad bid.

[JLOL]

bad? dislike? That doesn't even begin to describe 2C. LOL is not even strong enough to describe how terrible 2C is.

[jdonn]

Disagree with JLOL, I think LOL is a perfect description of 2♣. But I think south did even worse.

[ArtK78]

North - ugh! 2♣ is an abomination.

South - a little more sympathy up through 5♣. Before South bid 3♦, he should have considered what he would do over 3♥. And then he should have considered what he would do over 4♥. Bidding 4♣ and then 5♣ makes no sense. If he was going to do that, it would have been better to bid 5♣ the first time.

The only thing I can say in support of South's actions is that he may have thought that he was "walking the dog" and that 5♣ was going to make. The 3♦ bid pointed North to the right lead over 5♥.

[helene_t]

I don't think South's bidding is so bad, assuming he couldn't trust North to understand a 4♦ fit-showing jump.

2♣ is LOL.

[peachy]

The 2C overcall dug the grave.

[mtvesuvius]

2♣ is beyond awful... South was a little agressive, but North gets at least 95% of the blame for the 2♣ bid.

[mcphee]

Hmm lets see, I hold this tremendous hand in support of a vul 2 level o/c, I fully intend to reach game. I think S may have wanted to get dbled, I sure would. As for the hand that o/c 2C, it is not even close.

[JLOL]

jdonn, on May 17 2009, 10:40 AM, said:

Disagree with JLOL, I think LOL is a perfect description of 2♣. But I think south did even worse.

Wow that is way too hard on south

[Codo]

To, me both players deserved each other.

I mean, what do you dislike more? Plague or leprosy?

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

I can live with the auction until 4C, I dont like 5C.
3D and 4C were meant to involve partner, he decided
not to move, and South should respect this decision.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[jdonn]

JLOL, on May 17 2009, 09:12 PM, said:

jdonn, on May 17 2009, 10:40 AM, said:

Disagree with JLOL, I think LOL is a perfect description of 2♣. But I think south did even worse.

Wow that is way too hard on south

It's not his evaluation, it's his route to get there.

[hanp]

I think 3D is NF by the way, do people agree? If so that must be a pretty bad bid.

[skjaeran]

hanp, on May 18 2009, 07:30 PM, said:

I think 3D is NF by the way, do people agree? If so that must be a pretty bad bid.

Depends on what 2NT is (good-bad).

[gnasher]

hanp, on May 18 2009, 07:30 PM, said:

I think 3D is NF by the way, do people agree? If so that must be a pretty bad bid.

I think it's non-forcing, but with South's actual hand he can expect to get another bid, so if he isn't going to insist on game, and given the lack of agreements, I think 3♦ is a reasonable solution to his problem.

[mikeh]

I would play 3♦ as a one-round force, but don't feel strongly about it.... obviously there will be hands on which you'd like it one way and some where you;d like it the other... there is an argument that it might be best to play NF at mps and forcing at imps.

However, I would prefer 5♣ as South (and an original pass by North... just how much did he value his heart holding? )

[ninja89]

I would interpret 3S in a non-practiced partnership as a splinter, and would probably give it a go in my regular partnerships. However, my partners realise that I chronically overbid slam hands, so would give me some leeway. I would try a direct 5C in the given context, though. This all assumes that partner has a semblance of a 2C overcall.