[dickiegera]

Where in in rules does it say that both members of a team must have
identical filled out convention cards?
What the number of the rule?
Thank you

[RMB1]

This is not law but regulation. In the ACBL I found a relevant regulation in ACBL Codification - Chapter 12 - Section c.

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CHAPTER XII - SYSTEMS & CONVENTIONS

C. CONVENTION CARDS and CHARTS

Method of Enforcing Regulation for Use of Convention Cards (831-71)

At Sectional and higher rated tournaments:

A. Each player is required to have a Convention Card legibly filled out and on the table throughout the session. Both cards of a partnership must be identical and include the first and last names of each member of the partnership.

Robin

[bluejak]

When I was in South Africa I found most players had a CC in their score book. They did not allow opponents anywhere near it! Incredible! But I do not know the SABF regulations so do not know whether this was legal.

[mycroft]

And, of course (although somewhat unhelpful for the original question) the Law allowing the regulation is L40B2a "The Regulating Authority may prescribe...methods of disclosure of a partnership's methods".

Officially, the penalty for not having "a substantially completed card" is harsh: you get to play SAYC, standard carding, and 1/6 board MP penalty per board, until you manage to create and get convention cards approved. (if you have one, but not two, then "the director may give warnings or assign such penalties as he deems to be appropriate under the circumstances". In practise...)

[FrancesHinden]

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Both cards of a partnership must ... include the first and last names of each member of the partnership.

That seems a temptation to waste paper. What if you play the same system with multiple people? (We have some cards that say player 1 is "Jon" and player 2 is "Frances/Jeffrey")

Of course, real pedants would say that if the card said

"John Smith/Jane Doe/Andy Other"
playing with
"Wo Tan/Art Emis/Jupi Ter"

then it "includes the first and last names..."

[blackshoe]

FrancesHinden, on Jan 23 2010, 07:53 AM, said:

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Both cards of a partnership must ... include the first and last names of each member of the partnership.

That seems a temptation to waste paper. What if you play the same system with multiple people? (We have some cards that say player 1 is "Jon" and player 2 is "Frances/Jeffrey")

Heh. I play regularly with three people. Our first and last names are on both cards. I do not play identical systems with each (they each insist on playing things their way, and they don't agree with each other in several respects). None of the three plays with each other, btw. I have a plastic card holder which contains all three cards (and several others for people with whom I play occasionally). There is a player here who plays about eight games a week, and has probably at least a dozen different regular partners over the course of a month. She keeps a card for each partner in a separate plastic holder.

There is a sanctioned ACBL card editor for Windows. Most people either use that, or grab a card at the game and fill it out. Those who use the editor almost always put in both names. Those who just grab a card generally do a poor job of filling it out, usually illegibly, without any names, and then throw it away after the game. There are some who keep hand completed cards that have only their partner's name on them.

I suppose there's a lot of paper wastage in all that.