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Just thought this was funny. What percentage of a good field would you expect to end up in 2♠ with these hands (or, bidding 2♠ with intent to stop there, perhaps the opponents taking the plunge to compete)?
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Posted 2010-August-26, 14:00
Did you hold the responding hand? What was the total size of the field?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-August-26, 14:02
I'd say about 1% at most. Mind you I did notice a pair a few weeks ago decided to play 2H X on a 2-2 fit so....
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Posted 2010-August-26, 14:07
If I'm guessing: what would maximize the probability, I would have East deal and open 1♣. South doubles, and North bids 1♠. From here, it gets fuzzy, but West comes in with 2♥ and it comes back to South, who balances into 2♠.
Not all that likely, but no one has done anything outlandish.
Not all that likely, but no one has done anything outlandish.
codo said:
It is a fact that most people here write as if their opinion is a dogmatic fact.
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My opinion is that this ought to win the award for best self-referential quote of the new year.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 21:12
What? No one for the simple 1♥-P-1♠-P-2♠?
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Posted 2010-August-26, 21:21
Dirk Kuijt, on Aug 26 2010, 03:07 PM, said:
If I'm guessing: what would maximize the probability, I would have East deal and open 1♣. South doubles, and North bids 1♠. From here, it gets fuzzy, but West comes in with 2♥ and it comes back to South, who balances into 2♠.
Not all that likely, but no one has done anything outlandish.
Not all that likely, but no one has done anything outlandish.
Except for south, twice?
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Posted 2010-August-26, 21:34
kenrexford, on Aug 26 2010, 10:12 PM, said:
What? No one for the simple 1♥-P-1♠-P-2♠?
I might bid this way playing with myself, so I guess that means kenrexford and jlall!
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Posted 2010-August-26, 22:08
The field in your games is about three tables, right? 
Dunno, I'll guess 25% did.
Dunno, I'll guess 25% did.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 22:08
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What I meant was that no one has psyched, misread a bid, or forgotten an convention; that was what I was thinking of outlandish.
I agree that my 2♠ bid is bad; I'm going to claim that, in my sequence, South's double is merely poor.
OTOH, it isn't all that easy to think of logical ways to get to a 3-3 fit.
What I meant was that no one has psyched, misread a bid, or forgotten an convention; that was what I was thinking of outlandish.
I agree that my 2♠ bid is bad; I'm going to claim that, in my sequence, South's double is merely poor.
OTOH, it isn't all that easy to think of logical ways to get to a 3-3 fit.
codo said:
It is a fact that most people here write as if their opinion is a dogmatic fact.
eugene hung said:
My opinion is that this ought to win the award for best self-referential quote of the new year.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 23:03
Makes a lot of tricks on a trump lead and continuation.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 23:23
How many people sitting the other way play precision? I am told that if your opponents play precision, it is normal to land in a 3-3 fit.
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Posted 2010-August-27, 01:31
kenrexford, on Aug 27 2010, 04:12 AM, said:
What? No one for the simple 1♥-P-1♠-P-2♠?
That's pretty much the only way to get to 2♠ imo. However I disagree with the 1♠ response (what's wrong with 1NT?), and depending on the level of the field not everyone supports on a 3 card suit with 2♦ as an easy alternative. So I guess a very small percentage would end up in 2♠.
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Posted 2010-August-27, 04:03
2C*- x - p - 2S
END
* natural 11-15 and good 6cd suit
(not a totally unreasonable pairs auction)
OR
1C - p - 2C - x
p -2S END
(again not an unreasonable pairs auction)
I like the post - good to see a more unusual topic
END
* natural 11-15 and good 6cd suit
(not a totally unreasonable pairs auction)
OR
1C - p - 2C - x
p -2S END
(again not an unreasonable pairs auction)
I like the post - good to see a more unusual topic
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Posted 2010-August-27, 04:28
Phil, on Aug 26 2010, 11:08 PM, said:
The field in your games is about three tables, right?
Dunno, I'll guess 25% did.
Dunno, I'll guess 25% did.
How come all your math post make for ideal signatures?
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-August-27, 19:21
So, Ken, what was the answer to your question? What percentage of pairs did end in the 3-3 'fit'?
codo said:
It is a fact that most people here write as if their opinion is a dogmatic fact.
eugene hung said:
My opinion is that this ought to win the award for best self-referential quote of the new year.
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Posted 2010-August-28, 04:29
Pardon my ignorance, but what does the "S&G" in the title of this thread mean?
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Posted 2010-August-28, 04:54
Pardon my ignorance but why is responding 1♠ to 1♥ a good idea?
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