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#41 User is offline   Phil 

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Posted 2011-July-15, 18:40

View Postthe hog, on 2011-July-15, 18:29, said:

Maybe you don't think the players MrAce asked are any good?
Also note that had he guessed the S correctly, (extremely unlikely of course), 4S is on ice.


Of course they are good, that's why they were asked!

4♠ doesn't make by the way, guess or no guess.
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Posted 2011-July-16, 01:40

View Posthan, on 2011-July-15, 15:05, said:

I'd also like to add that if south had Kxx of spades instead of Jxx then you'd make 4H.

I'd think that partner should act with ♠Kxx and ♥Jx.
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Posted 2011-July-16, 02:12

FWIW all posters seem to think th e65 hand is the crucial hand..


I strongly diaagree........opener just needs to show extra and let responer bid.



I think the key bid is by responder not opener.
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Posted 2011-July-16, 02:51

View Postthe hog, on 2011-July-15, 18:29, said:

Also note that had he guessed the S correctly, (extremely unlikely of course), 4S is on ice.

Stiff heart lead beats 4♠ trivially.
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Posted 2011-July-16, 03:03

View PostCyberyeti, on 2011-July-16, 02:51, said:

Stiff heart lead beats 4♠ trivially.


Assuming that is led!
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Posted 2011-July-16, 03:52

View Postcherdano, on 2011-July-16, 01:40, said:

I'd think that partner should act with ♠Kxx and ♥Jx.


By south I meant the doubler, not partner.
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Posted 2011-July-16, 05:00

I think responder's actual hand is a clearcut 3♥ bid. ♠Q and ♥J are really good cards.

With the hand that Cherdano thought Han was talking about, Kxx Jx in the majors, I'd be thinking about bidding game. Game isn't cold opposite that - it's off on any 4-1 spade break, mainly because opener's spades are so bad. On that sort of layout, the trump switch shouldn't be hard to find against 4♥.
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Posted 2011-July-16, 05:12

View Postgnasher, on 2011-July-15, 15:24, said:

Are there? Speaking for myself, there aren't any hands with 5-5 in the majors that I'd open 1♥, and it's hard to think of a 4-5 hand that would bid 2♠ rather than double.

I've now taken to opening 5-5s that are so good I'm bidding game if partner speaks with 1♥ with a lot of success (on a small sample size), although I might not do so R/W. In the unopposed auction 1♥-1N-2♠-?-3♠ you seem to be better off than you are after 1♠-1N-3♥ where you haven't shown 5-5, but if opps interfere as they're likely to do W/R you can be worse off.
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