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Do you bid? 17 badly-placed HCP

#1 User is offline   Antrax 

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Posted 2011-September-18, 23:34

Matchpoints. Vulnerability as in diagram.

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Posted 2011-September-19, 05:35

3, earlier might be better. On the second round double is a possibility (take-out) but kinda ugly as you might land in an ugly 4-3 fit.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2011-September-19, 07:14

If you play 2S as a strong take-out then it is an option, albeit not perfect with the heart situation. This method seems to be popular in the UK and unpopular in the US for some reason. I know Fred has posted in the past that he considers double for take-out and 2S hearts + minor vastly superior to it. If playing this scheme then an immediate 3C seems prudent.
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Posted 2011-September-19, 07:29

How are your HCP "badly placed"? AK AKQ seems pretty well-placed to me, even with the strong hand on your left. Anyway I think I would have bid 3C the first time around, but that might not be best. Now you're really stuck, considering you are probably making ten tricks in hearts opposite as little as xx KT9xx xxx xx. Agree with Hanoi5 that double is kinda ugly but that's probably what I would try.
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Posted 2011-September-19, 08:20

I'd bid 3 right away as it looks like my partner will be on lead and that's definitely the suit I want him to lead.
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Posted 2011-September-19, 08:27

What are the advantages of overcalling 3 after the transfer, rather than in the balancing position? Does it show a stronger hand, or does it deny some information to the opponents?
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Posted 2011-September-19, 08:32

I like pass first followed by double for takeout.

Partner may be broke and I'll risk a bad 4-3 fit in a red suit hoping they have 5.

Bidding 3 is all eggs in one basket. If they have less than 3 you are likely cooked.

ps. I know the risks and in no way object to other choices. My strong preference is to defend 3 spades instead of 2.
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