Your pass ends the bidding... ...Your partner doesn't open balanced 11-counts
#1
Posted 2012-February-22, 05:26
♠QJ986
♥AQ42
♦T6
♣96
P-P-P-???
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:
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#2
Posted 2012-February-22, 05:30
I mean, are we expecting to make 2S on a combined 19? And it's what the field would do.
ahydra
#3
Posted 2012-February-22, 05:45
One might say, bcs of the ♥ suit, opps won't outbid us in a fit at the 2 level. So better open cos if opps play at the 3 level, they 'll pbbly go down.
Problem is :
p rates to make a limit bid, so chances are relatively high we will go down in 2nt or in 3M (except on a drury seq.)
So what if it goes 1♠ (P) 1NT (P) ?
2♥ or pass ?
I think I would open 1♠ and pass on 1NT, but surely not riskfree.
#4
Posted 2012-February-22, 13:39
#5
Posted 2012-February-22, 13:42
This, by the way, is easier for me because my partners open garbage, even in second seat.
If my partner was one of those strange people I occasionally partner who might have a balanced 12-count, I'd open.
As an aside, I would rather open 1♥ and pass partner's next call than open 1♠ and pass partner's next call. I would open 1♠ and then rebid 2♥, myself, but I could be more easily persuaded into 1♥...p than 1♠...p.
-P.J. Painter.
#6
Posted 2012-February-22, 13:45
#7
Posted 2012-February-22, 15:13
Points are 20-20, we have major suit(s).
#8
Posted 2012-February-22, 15:26
Bergen said that the rule of 15 applies OR if you can compete to the 3 level. I equate this to the same thing in that we buy the contract at the 2 level or sell out to them at 3 and go plus. We have all the tools to make this a 75-25 proposition but will ocassionally be stuck in 3 of something.
In f2f competition I can often take the opps temperature ie. a guy like Ken Rexford won't let me play 2 of a major unless it's an emergency and if they could make something, they already bid.
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#9
Posted 2012-February-22, 16:09
WTP?
Nah, I would pass.
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#10
Posted 2012-February-22, 16:29
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#12
Posted 2012-February-22, 19:16
nigel_k, on 2012-February-22, 13:39, said:
I'd rebid 2♥ after 1NT. I'd rather play 2♠ in a 5-2 fit than 1NT.
#13
Posted 2012-February-22, 19:54
#14
Posted 2012-February-23, 02:39
- hrothgar
#15
Posted 2012-February-23, 18:16
han, on 2012-February-23, 02:39, said:
I agree. Nether is having partner bid too much because he believes that you have your opening bid. So we are back to not opening.
The openers are playing with themselves again, (literally and metaphorically). They forget that they have a partner. I can just hear the discussion afterwards - "Did you have to raise to 3H?"
#16
Posted 2012-February-23, 19:14
If I am not using this then add me to the passes, too often these hands go beyond your last making spot.
#17
Posted 2012-February-24, 02:45
If you open, then there are 2 possibilities. Your partner has spades and raises to 3S and you go down, or your partner doesn't have spades and then the opponents will probably be able to outbid you. Either way, you usually lose.
#18
Posted 2012-February-28, 11:09
ggwhiz, on 2012-February-22, 15:26, said:
You apparently are not aware of my great love of low-level penalty doubles. One partner of mine and I are somewhat known for extracting penalties at low levels.
-P.J. Painter.
#19
Posted 2012-February-28, 11:22
♠987642
♥KQx
♦xx
♣Ax
That adds up to the rule of 15 but I folded it. Since I opened this one I'm considering therapy.
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#20
Posted 2012-February-28, 12:00
If CHO is one of those who overbids or otherwise takes license under the "BUT I WAS A PASSED HAND" theory, then it is probably best to pass the OP hand out. If partner is not a CHO, and makes responses/competitive calls as a passed hand similar to those she would have made as an unpassed hand, then I open 1S and rebid 2H if pard responds 1NT or neg doubles.